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This country is in a sad state of affairs. These young idiots that have never had to work for anything are of legal age to vote. And they do vote socialist. We are the dying party sad to say. We will be overrun in the next ten years. Only saving grace is that Mr. Trump is loading the courts.


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I sure do wish some of y’all had learned to read as well as write.

It would save you a bunch of guessing and reduce the number of stupid posts on this forum.


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Originally Posted by rainshot
Says the pot.



With 23,673 examples on display.


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My father in law is an old union Democrat that believed the republicans were the party of the rich and Dem's were for the working man. After 8 yrs of Obama and Trump getting elected he has finally seen the light and hates Dem's now.
He is a stubborn old goat and if he can change sides I believe there is hope many of theses yankee union Dem's can also....

He thinks Trump is great..... so there is hope for people like Curdog 45/70..... wink


I was willing to be convinced after he got the nomination that Trump was who y’all thought he was . He seemed to me to be a more or less typical NYC blowhard with enough Liberal tendencies to be scary to a single issue voter like me.

I’ve stated several times on this forum that getting all wrapped up in the political intrigues of BOTH major parties is akin to paying your entry fee for a rigged contest. The only way our individual votes can have any impact is to pick out ONE issue and vote based on that.You should not choose taxes or deficit spending as your issue. In fact, you should not pick any issue that can be quantified since both sides can make numbers dance to their tune.

The 2A or Abortion make make excellent single issues since they are fairly clear cut, at least in comparison most other issues.

I chose the 2A as my issue decades ago and have never wavered on it. Cruz had the strongest 2A credentials of all the 2016 candidates so I supported him in the primaries. It really is that simple.

So, your FIL can find something about Trump to make him start supporting him. Everything I’ve seen and heard from Trump points to my original concerns about him being justified, so I’ll stay with my original assessment.

Those of us who were adults in the ‘ sixties and saw the pendulum swinging ever more in the direction of outright confiscation of firearms will have a different mindset than those who only know of it as history taught by right wingers. Thankfully, that movement was reversed at the State levels....no thanks to the Feds.

Any nudge of the pendulum back in the wrong direction..like bump stocks and red flag laws.... should result in outrage by the gun community.

All I hear is MAGA.



How was Trump's victory a rigged contest ?



OT, he's full of schit.


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Originally Posted by hatari
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Says the pot.



With 23,673 examples on display.

Ignorance knows no bounds. If he’d shut the fugg up and just listen he might learn something.
Most afflicted with this head in ass disease never recover.

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Originally Posted by hatari
I've opined several times that the Dems have a serious internal struggle for control of the heart of their Party. Nothing could illustrate that more than the Left embracing a nut case and such an unaccomplished persons as AOC while savaging an Old School Democratic classic Northeast Liberal in Howard Schultz.

This is the effect of 30 years of Identity Politics. For 30 years, the Dems have sought to expand their base by going to the radical fringes of American Society. Militant feminists, environmentalists, Vegans, LGBTxyz, the racists AA like Booker and Waters. The enemy of all these are Christian Whites, along with all of their values.

This is the effect of 25 years of the Clinton's controlling Clinton's Party. The Dems were run by the Kennedy's and the NE liberal elite for 35 years, until the Clintons came to town and brought Saul Alininsky with them. They attacked their enemies, destroyed them personally, and with their success, slowly pushed the Kennedy wing out of power.

They also suppressed the development of young talent in their Party. There was to be NO competition for Hillary when she ran for President. Amazingly, unknown Obama beat her. To make sure that did't happen again, the nominally ran Bernie the Crazy Commie, and to their dismay, found that their new fringe Party liked him about as much as HRC!

The Dems doubled down in effort to blunt the Trump offensive against them by running young, and radically Left opponents to grab the House, knowing that in an off year election, they could "buy" the House. They did it, and now what do they have?

They have a Party with aging leadership. Pelosi, Schumer, Sanders, Warren, Feinstein are all fossils. Their young guns - Harris, Booker, etc., are not in Washington because they are clever or bright, but because the Dems got them elected. It would have been the same if Abrams and/or Gillum had won the Gov seat in GA or FL. Neither candidate is very bright. I suppose what I'm saying is none of the young ones have political talent. They are not savvy.

Now the aging leadership has a problem. They've created this far Left monster that demands attention and wants to run the show right now. They are too naive to play hard ball politics at this point, and if they are allowed to drive the Dem bus, they will drive it off the cliff.

That is the internal fight the Dems have for the next 2-4 years.


Spot on. The Clintons gutted the Democratic party. And it's going to wreak havoc among them for the next decade. If we aren't careful (and somewhat lucky) the entire country is going to pay a heavy price for the Clintons' destruction of the Democratic party.


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remember when you were 29?


This morning, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez released an overview of her “Green New Deal” which threatens "a massive transformation of our society."

Below are the details of the proposal.

Rebuild every single building in the U.S.

“Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency.”

Will end all traditional forms of energy in the next ten years.

The Green New Deal is “a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society at a scale not seen since World War 2 to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

Plans to ban nuclear energy within 10 years if possible.

“It’s unclear if we will be able to decommission every nuclear plant within 10 years, but the plan is to transition off of nuclear and all fossil fuels as soon as possible.”

Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!

“Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”.

Don’t invest in new technology of Carbon Capture and Storage, just plant trees instead!

“We believe the right way to capture carbon is to plant trees and restore our natural ecosystems. CCUS technology to date has not proven effective.”

Mandates all new jobs be unionized.

“Ensure that all GND jobs are union jobs that pay prevailing wages and hire local.”

May include a carbon tax.

“We’re not ruling a carbon tax out, but a carbon tax would be a tiny part of a Green New Deal”

May include cap and trade.

“…Cap and trade may be a tiny part of the larger Green New Deal plan”

How much will it cost?

No estimate of the total cost of implementing the Green New deal is offered by Ocasio-Cortez.

However, as Ocasio-Cortez admits, “even if every billionaire and company came together and were willing to pour all the resources at their disposal into this investment, the aggregate value of the investments they could make would not be sufficient.”

She does provide one estimate that the cost to “repair and upgrade infrastructure U.S. infrastructure” alone will cost “$4.6 trillion at minimum”.

How will it be paid for? Don’t worry about that.

Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t provide any insight into how the trillions of dollars in spending will be paid for other than claiming, “The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments and new public banks can be created to extend credit”.

But as Ocasio-Cortez says, “the question isn’t how will we pay for it, but what will we do with our new shared prosperity”.


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Curdog has developed a bad case of mangina itch..........


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Air conditioners. How about air conditioners, man.


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The new green deal will kill off the democrats.

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'I'm mad, y'all!' Ocasio-Cortez wipes away a tear as she vows to defund ICE over death of 7-year-old migrant and claims Trump hates ALL immigrants – while saying Latinos can't be illegals because America is 'native land'


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I love being lectured by someone who was schlepping drinks for tips a year ago, but now suddenly has all of the answers. She acts like she won the lottery and it included a brain. She will crash and burn spectacularly.


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Originally Posted by KFWA

Plans to ban nuclear energy within 10 years if possible.

“It’s unclear if we will be able to decommission every nuclear plant within 10 years, but the plan is to transition off of nuclear and all fossil fuels as soon as possible.”

Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!

“Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”.


Ban the only viable truly pollution free source of energy we have.....brilliant.

Evidently this mental giant is unable to read a map. She looks at Europe and thinks since they have high speed rail then it'll work here. High speed rail tops out at around 200 mph, people in europe take high speed trains from Paris to Frankfurt which is 350 miles and between other cities of similar distance. I've ridden that line many times and it's about 4 hours. New York to Chicago is 800 miles which would mean about 9 hours on a high speed train. Coast to coast is 3000 miles which would be 30+ hours on a high speed train. They don't do 200 mph all the time. Ground all the planes and make everybody going from L.A. to New York take a train, yeah that's brilliant too.


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The craziness coming from the left these days will get you upset if you let it.

I disconnect from all information every so often just to get away from it.

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Originally Posted by KFWA
Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!“Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”..

Surely not?

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Originally Posted by Toddly

Ignorance knows no bounds. If he’d shut the fugg up and just listen he might learn something.
Most afflicted with this head in ass disease never recover.


Let's play a game. Can you identify the poster on this thread with Negativistic Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder?


Negativistic personality disorder, also known as passive-aggressive disorder, is characterized by persistent pessimism and negative attitudes. People suffering from negativistic personality disorder usually appear to comply or act according to the various demands, but actually, he or she will behave negatively and will passively resist. These negativistic attitudes usually manifest as procrastination, dawdling, stubbornness, deliberate inefficiency, pretended forgetfulness and unreasonable criticism of people in authority. These self-destructive behaviors are often supported by statements like "good things don't last", "it doesn't pay to be good", "the future is behind me" and similar.


Negativistic Personality Disorder Symptoms

Persons with negativistic personality disorder usually appear contradictory and show inconsistent behavior.

All of the listed behaviors are commonly followed by strong resentment towards authority or other people who are in charge. People with negativistic personality disorder usually appear stubborn, very argumentative and sometimes even hostile to others. Essentially, these people have serious problems with authority, or with individuals that they believe have power over them. This is why people with negativistic personality avoid responsibility and constructive conversation by being easily offended or resentful to suggestions of others. These people are even prone to blaming other people for their faults.


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Curdog 25/20? ....... wink


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by KFWA
remember when you were 29?


This morning, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez released an overview of her “Green New Deal” which threatens "a massive transformation of our society."

Below are the details of the proposal.

Rebuild every single building in the U.S.

“Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency.”

Will end all traditional forms of energy in the next ten years.

The Green New Deal is “a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society at a scale not seen since World War 2 to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

Plans to ban nuclear energy within 10 years if possible.

“It’s unclear if we will be able to decommission every nuclear plant within 10 years, but the plan is to transition off of nuclear and all fossil fuels as soon as possible.”

Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!

“Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”.

Don’t invest in new technology of Carbon Capture and Storage, just plant trees instead!

“We believe the right way to capture carbon is to plant trees and restore our natural ecosystems. CCUS technology to date has not proven effective.”

Mandates all new jobs be unionized.

“Ensure that all GND jobs are union jobs that pay prevailing wages and hire local.”

May include a carbon tax.

“We’re not ruling a carbon tax out, but a carbon tax would be a tiny part of a Green New Deal”

May include cap and trade.

“…Cap and trade may be a tiny part of the larger Green New Deal plan”

How much will it cost?

No estimate of the total cost of implementing the Green New deal is offered by Ocasio-Cortez.

However, as Ocasio-Cortez admits, “even if every billionaire and company came together and were willing to pour all the resources at their disposal into this investment, the aggregate value of the investments they could make would not be sufficient.”

She does provide one estimate that the cost to “repair and upgrade infrastructure U.S. infrastructure” alone will cost “$4.6 trillion at minimum”.

How will it be paid for? Don’t worry about that.

Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t provide any insight into how the trillions of dollars in spending will be paid for other than claiming, “The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments and new public banks can be created to extend credit”.

But as Ocasio-Cortez says, “the question isn’t how will we pay for it, but what will we do with our new shared prosperity”.


She is truly insane.


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