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#13550931 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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Well, in fairness, part of my job is to keep up with trends (not fads, trends), partly so I know what many readers will be interested in. That's not the job of most hunters.

While I don't think the 6.5 Creedmoor is the greatest cartridge ever, I decided to start investigating it when the round was still hanging around three years after its introduction in 2007, and in fact apparently starting to become more popular. (I usually wait a little on new rounds, because some do turned out to be momentary fads.) But after doing considerably investigating, I understand why it's become so popular, especially among hunters buying a first rifle, whether for themselves or others in their familiy. Many older hunters obviously don't feel the need.


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#13550970 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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Many seem to need to invent spurious reasons to not like it, rather than simply admitting it just doesn't tickle their fancy.


"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
#13551113 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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It's angst (and low T) on the part of some posters.

Live and let live.

For the rest, here's the late Joan Crawford demonstrating angst. It's a mix of fear, anxiety and not enough broccoli.

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#13551577 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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I bought one because I dig the light recoil. Even my .257 bee starts to kick after a while, not to mention the hot barrel after a 4 or 5 shot string. I joined a private range that goes to 550 yards and it is a lot of fun to swing plates with it. A 1k range is in the works. I have other chamberings to choose from but the 6.5CM is just new to me.

Those long skinny bullets are sexy, like long legs in a short skirt.


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#13551779 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Sakoluvr]  
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I once spent what was essentially an 8-hour work day shooting steel out to 1000 yards with a 6.5 CM. Dunno how many rounds got used up, but it was enough that I wouldn't have wanted to do it with anything that kicked much more!


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#13551917 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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Sounds like a fun day at work! If it's not fun to shoot, it stops being fun. I love my 6mm Rem for the same reason. I keep the .257 bee for the bean fields now.


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#13552444 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I once spent what was essentially an 8-hour work day shooting steel out to 1000 yards with a 6.5 CM. Dunno how many rounds got used up, but it was enough that I wouldn't have wanted to do it with anything that kicked much more!


Dang, what do you do for vacation, go sit at a desk somewhere?



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#13553201 - 02/11/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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It means "Marketing Stroke of Genius."

It's right up there with "Tactical !" You want something to sell just hang the tag "Tactical" on it. Creedmore is almost as good.

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#13553572 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Filaman]  
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Originally Posted by Filaman
It means "Marketing Stroke of Genius."

It's right up there with "Tactical !" You want something to sell just hang the tag "Tactical" on it. Creedmore is almost as good.


I'm guessing anyone who spells it "Creedmore" is Creed-less.



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#13553798 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: smokepole]  
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smokepole,

Once in a great while my wife and I go on vacation to a city, where we can sample good restaurants and do some touristing. Often, though, we combine it with work. A good example took place 2007. I had been invited to test some Heym rifles on a "cull" hunt on the estate of the last British earl in Ireland, and Eileen had just read in one of the cooking magazines she's subscribes to that Cork was one of the new centers of European cuisine, because of then-booming Irish economy. Cork is Ireland's major seaport from Europe, and so many people had moved there from other countries that fine restaurants of all sorts had sprung up. So she got permission to accompany me if we paid for her plane ticket, and we spent several days in Cork eating and touristing, which was great. Among other places, it turned out one of the highest-rated Spanish tapas restaurants anywhere was across the street from our hotel. Spent most of an afternoon there, sampling food and wine. And it turned out Heym was also eager to have her field-test one of their rifles, so she did!

These days we don't travel long-distance nearly as much, having pretty much had our fill of airports and the other hassles. But we do take off now and then to do the same sort of eating/touristing somewhere close enough to drive to.

Other than that, we do both work pretty hard, Eileen at writing game cookbooks and running our website. I usually write a couple hours in the mornings, then do other "work" stuff for the rest of the day, whether shooting, handloading, taking photos, or whatever. Our local rod and gun club, where we're life members, has a great range that includes everything from shotgun sports to a 1000-yard rifle range with dozens of gongs. Oh, and we both hunt pretty hard during the work-week at the right time of year. (We try to take weekends off, like other people.) Over the years we've taken antelope, mule and whitetailed deer, elk, black bears, moose and bighorn sheep less than an hour's drive from our house; this year Eileen got her deer within 5 minutes our our front door, while I got mine 10 minutes away. Also have eight of the 10 Montana upland birds nearby, and a big river and reservoir for waterfowling.


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#13553805 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: smokepole]  
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OMG Grammar Master has found me again!!! OK Creedmoor (or less)

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#13553992 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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As to the original question:

creed: a statement of essential beliefs

moor: open usually swampy wasteland

While the first seems very fitting, I am not sure how to apply the second.


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#13554010 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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Openly stating your essential beliefs may lead the conversation into the swampy wasteland of the beliefs of others.


"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
#13554389 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Hesp]  
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One of the interesting aspects about the whole Creedmoor debate is how many anti-Creedmoor people say they don't need or want one, but are constantly bombarded by pro-Creedmoor pushers. Do they PM you on the Campfire? Ring your doorbell like a local politician and launch into a Creedmoor campaign speech? Do they stand on street corners and pass out Creedmoor screeds while shouting to attract a crowd?

In my experience, anti-Creedmoorites are far more likely to spontaneously break into a lecture, when the vast majority have exactly zero experience with the round.


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as a gun dealer i am glad people want to buy a new cartridge rifle,scope ,ammo whatever its more money in my pocket, far as a Creedmoor its been a cash cow for me. hopefully here in America someone comes up with another new "koolaid"cartridge with a interesting name.

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This gets posted occasionally, but it's perfect for this thread. Live and let live.



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#13555265 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
One of the interesting aspects about the whole Creedmoor debate is how many anti-Creedmoor people say they don't need or want one, but are constantly bombarded by pro-Creedmoor pushers. Do they PM you on the Campfire? Ring your doorbell like a local politician and launch into a Creedmoor campaign speech? Do they stand on street corners and pass out Creedmoor screeds while shouting to attract a crowd?

In my experience, anti-Creedmoorites are far more likely to spontaneously break into a lecture, when the vast majority have exactly zero experience with the round.



Got a good chuckle out of this.........


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#13555498 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: 5sdad]  
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Originally Posted by 5sdad
As to the original question:

creed: a statement of essential beliefs

moor: open usually swampy wasteland

While the first seems very fitting, I am not sure how to apply the second.


I believe it's swampy here.

#13555551 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
smokepole,

Once in a great while my wife and I go on vacation to a city, where we can sample good restaurants and do some touristing. Often, though, we combine it with work. A good example took place 2007. I had been invited to test some Heym rifles on a "cull" hunt on the estate of the last British earl in Ireland, and Eileen had just read in one of the cooking magazines she's subscribes to that Cork was one of the new centers of European cuisine, because of then-booming Irish economy. Cork is Ireland's major seaport from Europe, and so many people had moved there from other countries that fine restaurants of all sorts had sprung up. So she got permission to accompany me if we paid for her plane ticket, and we spent several days in Cork eating and touristing, which was great. Among other places, it turned out one of the highest-rated Spanish tapas restaurants anywhere was across the street from our hotel. Spent most of an afternoon there, sampling food and wine. And it turned out Heym was also eager to have her field-test one of their rifles, so she did!

These days we don't travel long-distance nearly as much, having pretty much had our fill of airports and the other hassles. But we do take off now and then to do the same sort of eating/touristing somewhere close enough to drive to.

Other than that, we do both work pretty hard, Eileen at writing game cookbooks and running our website. I usually write a couple hours in the mornings, then do other "work" stuff for the rest of the day, whether shooting, handloading, taking photos, or whatever. Our local rod and gun club, where we're life members, has a great range that includes everything from shotgun sports to a 1000-yard rifle range with dozens of gongs. Oh, and we both hunt pretty hard during the work-week at the right time of year. (We try to take weekends off, like other people.) Over the years we've taken antelope, mule and whitetailed deer, elk, black bears, moose and bighorn sheep less than an hour's drive from our house; this year Eileen got her deer within 5 minutes our our front door, while I got mine 10 minutes away. Also have eight of the 10 Montana upland birds nearby, and a big river and reservoir for waterfowling.


Now you're just rubbing it in. Ireland sounds like fun, it's on my list.



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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
One of the interesting aspects about the whole Creedmoor debate is how many anti-Creedmoor people say they don't need or want one, but are constantly bombarded by pro-Creedmoor pushers. Do they PM you on the Campfire? Ring your doorbell like a local politician and launch into a Creedmoor campaign speech? Do they stand on street corners and pass out Creedmoor screeds while shouting to attract a crowd?


I haven't seen any of that but I did just see two clean-cut young men on bicycles wearing white shirts and ties. They had backpacks but also interestingly enough, bolt action rifles slung across their backs.

It didn't make sense to me until just now, had to be Creedmoors.



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#13555987 - 02/12/19 Re: What does Creedmoor really mean??? [Re: smokepole]  
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smokepole,

Well, yeah, I was kind of "rubbing it in."

But one of the things my father might have been right about, even when I was a teenager and knew everything, was strongly suggesting to do something I enjoyed for a living. He passed away at 44, and like all fathers and sons we had some conflicts. Am very grateful for his advice.


John

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