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Evidently were targeted by the guy that was in charge of the operation.

He lied about buying drugs from the couple. Story says he'll likely face charges...

"Likely face charges"? BS He needs to be charged with Capital Murder.

Also, they need to hand this investigation over to Texas Rangers. A department "internal investigation" just doesn't cut it.

They also need to do something with that azzwhole that went on TV calling the couple that were killed "Scumbags".

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HPD Chief Acevedo says narcotics cop committed likely crime by lying in affidavit for deadly raid



An internal Houston police investigation has uncovered alarming deficiencies in the department's narcotics division that led to an allegedly falsified search warrant used to justify a southeast Houston drug raid last month that killed two Pecan Park residents and injured five officers, according to documents obtained Friday by the Houston Chronicle.

In a hastily called press conference, Police Chief Art Acevedo said Gerald Goines, the veteran narcotics case agent at the center of the controversy, will likely face criminal charges. The internal investigation revealed he allegedly lied about using a confidential informant to conduct an undercover buy at the residence on Harding Street. The buy led to a raid and a fatal gunfight at the house the next day, killing Dennis Tuttle, 59, and Rhogena Nicholas, 58, and injuring five Houston Police Department officers.The debacle, which has infuriated officers across the department and which critics say has damaged public trust in HPD, and infuriated members of the department's rank-and-file, also prompted Acevedo to order an "extensive audit" of the 175-member narcotics division and an examination of Goines' recent cases.

"We know that there's already a crime that's been committed," Acevedo said. "It's a serious crime when we prepare a document to go into somebody's home, into the sanctity that is somebody's home. It has to be truthful, it has to be honest, it has to be factual. We know already there's a crime that's been committed. There's high probability there will be a criminal charge."

Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi said that while he was "extremely concerned and disturbed" by the allegations that came to light Friday, they were "not indicative" of the performance of the rest of the department's 5,200 officers. He pledged to back any reforms needed to avoid similar misconduct in the future.

"We certainly feel this is an isolated incident," he said. "However, we will certainly support any review or changes to policy that need to be made in order to ensure that something like this never happens again."

The critical allegations were outlined in a sworn affidavit written by HPD Officer R. Bass, with the department's Special Investigations Unit, who asked a judge for a search warrant to examine the cell phone of officer Steven Bryant, an undercover narcotics officer relieved of duty after the shooting.

The Chronicle normally does not publish the names of undercover officers, but Goines and Bryant were identified in an affidavit related to a search warrant and both have been relieved of duty by Acevedo.

In the initial HPD warrant, Goines wrote that he monitored a buy at the home by a confidential informant, who identified the substance that was purchased as heroin and said there was a 9mm handgun in the house. Police obtained a no-knock warrant —allowing them to enter unannounced — and burst into the small southeast home the next day to a hail of gunfire.

At the end of the shootout, both Tuttle and Nicholas had been shot to death, and five officers were injured — four by gunfire. Police found 18 grams of marijuana — about half an ounce — and a little more than a gram of white powder, but no heroin or trafficking paraphernalia. After the fatal operation, neighbors pushed back on assertions by police the residence was a drug house.

HPD investigators have not been unable to locate the confidential informants who Goines claimed — in two separate interviews — made the undercover purchases at the Pecan Park home, according to Bass' affidavit.

When detectives talked to the informants, both said they'd worked for Goines but never purchased drugs at the 7815 Harding home where Tuttle and Nicholas were killed. Investigators then got a full list of Goines' confidential informants, and they all denied making a buy at the Tuttle house or ever purchasing narcotics from Nicholas or Tuttle.

Bryant told investigators he had retrieved two bags of heroin from the center console of Goines' police car at the instruction of another officer. That was not consistent with the affidavit used to obtain the warrant for the Jan. 28 raid, which said Bryant identified heroin brought out of the house. Though he took the two bags of drugs for testing to determine that they were heroin, Bryant eventually said he had never seen the narcotics in question before retrieving them from the car.

Investigators are reviewing Goines' past cases, Acevedo said, adding that he's assigned Assistant Chief Pedro Lopez to take a broader look "to make sure that we're not being myopic, that we look at our entire narcotics operation out there, in terms of the street level units, and they'll be conducting a very extensive audit."

The allegations of false information used to conduct a raid that led to the death of two residents and left five officers injured further stunned and angered residents. It marked one of most significant cases of police misconduct within the narcotics division in decades.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-...ting-affidavit-confidential-13620120.php

Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well.

People died and were injured as a result of the cop's illegal activity. If I were one of the cops that got injured because of his lie, I'd rattle his [bleep] teeth loose.

Decent cops are justifiably furious over this.

Our Constitution provides civil rights to protect us from govt. There are conditions when these are allowed, such as search warrants. When the ones that are supposed to be enforcing the laws are the ones breaking them and violating our Constitution, it causes distrust in the ones that are following the rule book, and trying to take the real bad guys out.

I'll lump in those sorry, POS, SOB's that lied to the FISA Court to obtain illegal warrants as well.

It is very clear that the Justice System... isn't anymore.

Goines and Bryant both sound like management material to me.



Remember children there is no reason to own a high cap magazine unless you want to stay alive.

A bad cop? Wow, that'd be a first, wouldn't it?

This deal sounded like a frame up from the git go. The surprising aspect is that the cover up was unsuccessful.

A couple of days ago, an unarmed guy was charged with murder because one cop shot another while shooting at the unarmed guy. Let that sink in and then compare that outcome with what is likely to happen here.

Didn't the dumbass run at the cops w/a fake gun pretending to be attacking/aiming it at the cops ?

Your tax dollars at work..........

The Chief can only say "charges will likely be filed" because that's the job of the prosecutor, not the police chief.

As to the curdog's post, when a crime results in a death - no matter how that death happened - the result is a charge of murder. That's the law in many if not most states.

The Houston Homeowner had a real gun and shot four cops before he was killed. In the other case, we don’t know what happened there, do we?

If cops hadn’t been shot in Houston, we would likely never have heard about the phony search warrant.

We shall see what the crooked cop is charged with in Houston.

Death sentence, anything less is not justice.

Wrong House as well as a bogus warrant??

Even just one crooked cop, one cover up, one lie to get a search/arrest warrant is far too many. An example should be made of any cop that does such a thing.

Multiple cops shot. Two people dead. Public trust SEVERELY eroded.

If guility, public execution is not out of line what this Houston cop apparently did.

Veteran Houston cop shot third time on the job 'had to go in' to gunfight
by Craig Fernandez | Jan 30, 2019 | eNews | 0 comments

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By PoliceOne Staff

HOUSTON — One of the four officers shot while serving a warrant in Houston on Monday didn’t hesitate in engaging the gunman, despite being shot twice on the job before.

The 54-year-old officer, who was shot in the neck Monday and hasn’t been publicly identified by the Houston Police Department, has been shot twice previously in the line of duty since joining the department in 1984, ABC News reports.

“I had to go in, I knew my guys were down,” the officer said in a note passed to Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo from his hospital bed on Tuesday, where he was in critical but stable condition.

The 32-year veteran was leading a team to execute a warrant in a narcotics case when suspects opened fire. He was among five officers who were wounded in the shootout. Two suspects were killed.

“He’s done something really good in life that God looks over him,” Acevedo said. “The only thing bigger than his stature is his strength and courage.”

In addition to the 54-year-old officer, one other LEO was also shot in the neck and is in critical, but stable condition. One officer, who was shot in the shoulder, was released from the hospital on Monday.

https://aztroopers.org/enews/veteran-houston-cop-shot-third-time-on-the-job-had-to-go-in-to-gunfight

And just 16 days ago he was a Hero.

Goines is a piece of work. “Shot twice”? The first arose when he was peeing against some guy’s tree after an undercover drug buy, the second arose from a road rage incident on the loop.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc13....oversial-raid-shot-twice-before/5141523/

Next question is why that house, why that couple? Was the Cop wanting to buy the house after the couple lost everything ?

Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.

All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society.

All that most people will ever know is that he was a “ dirt bag”, pronounced as such by the Spokesman for the Houston Police Union.

His dead wife ? She’s a dirt bag also.

Justice will not be served unless the Judge that issued the no knock warrant is also punished.

Agreed.

How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws?

Off the charts.

This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.

Yep.

The Constitution had a fail safe against this. It was the requirement that the homeowner be given an opportunity to inspect the warrant before force was applied to gain entry. The purpose of the warrant presentation and inspection was to ensure the homeowner had the chance to know the invasion was lawful, so as to know not to resist with counter force. Remove that feature, and you get this sort of situation where the homeowner feels compelled to repel armed invaders into his home, resulting in death on all sides and a kind of society inconsistent with liberty.

^^^^^^^ I couldn't agree more with this statement

The War On Drugs has transformed our culture... at least as much as the drugs themselves. From no knock warrants, to SWAT teams to Civil forfeiture, our inherent God given rights are threatened on a wholesale basis.

We read on this forum frequently about the sheep and wolves making sheep dogs a neccissity. Sheepdogs herd sheep and rely on fear on the part of the sheep to do their job. Cops who see themselves as Great Pyrenees type sheep dogs overlook the fact that many of their “sheep” are armed and don’t cotton to wolves or big dogs.

In every liberal controlled form of govt, the corruption within it is epic.

More of that agenda to destroy our country.

He needs to get the needle.

Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.

It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.

This and Broward come immediately to mind.

Well said.

Two flagrant examples.

Both liberal controlled local govt.

That's what I say to someone when I find support for a RFL, I also tell them I'll support a RFL when the is stiff penalties for falsely reporting on a RFL and I mean 1 year jail time as a minimum type of punishment for denying some one a Constitutional right and up to life in prison if a falsely accused gets hurt in the process.

So many good posts on this thread I’d be here all day responding to them all. I’ll just say it’s pretty apparent we all agree this was a gross miscarriage of justice made possible not just by endemic corruption but by the erosion of civil liberties that have been in place to keep this sort of thing from happening. Based on the comments so far, it seems as though it should be common sense but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. The system is broken, people are broken, somethings gotta give. This country is not the same place I grew up in.

Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles

Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.

Wrong house.

It's precisely what is ongoing with the Mueller Investigation.

Nothing but an unconstitutional action, lie, hoax, and coup perpetrated by liberals to remove or cripple a duly elected POTUS.

I don't think the "overzealous cop" genre is exactly new.

If such a defense were put up each and every time a no knock search were employed, we'd see them disappear.

PS Even knock searches amount to the same thing, e.g., someone knocks and mumbles something from outside your home's door, maybe you even hear the word police shouted, and then the door comes down. Shouting police before the door comes down is no guarantee that it's not a home invasion rape, murder, torture, robbery.

Judges sign those.

Dirty Harry's methods are positively Joe Friday compared to what they're doing today in cop drama.

A POTUS they're just sure is a bad man, so every underhanded, unconstitutional, and illegal tactic is justified in removing him.

Nope, he’ll jusy go back to Austin where he’ll be welcomed with open arms!



And a big damn raise!

The purpose of the judge signed document is to inform the home owner that the invasion is lawful, and he shouldn't resist. Leave out the presentation and inspection phase, and you may as well skip the warrant altogether as far as its Constitutional purpose goes.

It also adjudicates probable cause based on sworn affidavits presented as proof of criminal activity that justifies the breach of Rights as described in the Constitution.

Yes I know that.

But a judge knows the difference between a warrant being signed for a raid and one that isn't.

They sign them and nobody seems to question anything the judge ever signs. Until they do you can forget anything changing.

Agreed.

Needs to very much apply to surveillance warrants as well. But with current legislation enacted by congress with such as the Patriot Act, it's become pretty much a moot point.

Yep, and equally important, but ultimately useless without the opportunity to inspect and stand down.

I've seen judges that rubber stamp search warrants.

The cops know who they are too...

Those are the judges the crooked cops go to.

This ^

In our country a judges word is final. Might as well be God Himself handing down the affidavit. Until we make them answerable when schitt goes to schitt, nothing fundamentally will change.

Just looked at the stats for Houston,.....24% Caucasian,...black mayor,...301 murders in 2016.

Ol' Sylvester is a Commie POS.

Texas passed a law that will not allow any sanctuary cities in the state of Texas.

That POS came real close to declaring Houston a sanctuary city, but backed off when Abbott confronted him with it. My guess is that Abbott told him he'd see him and the rest of the city council in jail if they did that...

The judges that sign these warrants, the DA's that do or don't bring charges, then prosecute are being paid and are part of the same system as LE.

The drug war is blamed but who is actually doing these injustices?

Police Chief Art Acevedo was formally the Police Chief in Austin, Texas. Austin looked all the country for a corrupt Socialist Police Chief and found Acevedo in California. He's still a scumbag!

Too bad the people that draw up the search warrant and sign it aren't the ones that bust the door down.

This schit would taper off pretty quickly if they were, hopefully because they'd be dead.

That's my take on it as well.

I think Austin has a pretty good reputation though does it not?

For what?

The Austin PD is a non-confrontational type department that expresses the will of the liberal city govt.

They'll give you seat belt tickets and DWI's though.

City wide traffic cops. Not much on the overall spectrum of enforcing much of anything else though.

At least that was how it was explained to me by a friend I had on APD. That's been awhile back. It's changed I'm sure.

Their poleece department.

Getting to the point where the proper home defense firearm may be a 308 FA loaded with black tip.

Wow.....talk about throwing skunk essence on a situation that already stinks to high heaven.

Doesn't matter though....even if it is true (and i repeat "if") we'll never hear about it.

Do y’all think cops don’t watch those cop shows also?

I doubt that anything bad will be done to a BLACK COP in Houston.

Has anyone seen anything about these latest revelations - compared to the coverage when the raid took place - in any of the National News?

Selective Traffic Enforcement Program, STEP

LOTS of federal money came thru our office (District Traffic Ops, TxDOT was the grant custodian) for that program for years.

Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.

I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?

Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.

My approach to it all is pragmatic.

Don't want to deal with azzhole cops?,.....then don't live in schitthole cities.

24% Caucasian+black mayor=schitthole city resulting in azzhole cops.

EXACTLY

What we know now is just the tip of the iceberg. We will never know the truth of what really happened. Hasbeen

Agreed. This is the same guy who held up photos of that poor couple in front of tv cameras while calling ‘em dirtbags, the same guy who would dictate how you store your guns, as he put it, “in the sanctity of your home”.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/kevi...-interested-in-your-views-on-gun-control

Seems like he's not a very popular guy with many folks.

Sounds like joe citizen needs to do some swating themselves......this type chit is getting old....

I've actually experienced the opposite of this.

But one thing seems universal, a lot of cops are a-holes.

Or what has gone undiscovered.

The confidence to pull this off didn't manifest overnight.

Where?

I consider myself a fairly objective person.

Those chickenchit SOB’s are hiding behind their wife, departmental policies, their keyboard and any other excuse they can come up with.....baring that they’ll stay quiet in hopes we forget about the lvMikey’s and others that are always wrong but never in doubt.

Every cop on that raid, anyone that signed off on it and their superiors should be brought up on murder charges, just like they do to “perps” that commit a crime that results in death.

Just when I get all primed for a good cop bashing thread, the Redirect Demon raises its ugly head and sends me to a website called Precious Gifts.

Y’all carry on....I’ve got a 22 Hornet that needs attention.

What ever came of the female cop that went to the wrong apartment and killed the resident, saying she thought the guy was in her place? Was she in Houston also?

Your solution isn’t pragmatic it’s wistful dreaming at best and flawed logic of a coward at worst. You folks in the south sure bitch about blacks a lot but yet you don’t move away from them. Moving or running from your home, job, friends and family is NOT pragmatic....it’s downright chickenchit cowardice. It’s unbelievable how many surrender monkeys there are here rather than men willing to take a stand in their community and fight the gestapo state. JFC...

This family was inside their house when the “good guys” broke in and murdered them. Moving to another place doesn’t garner you immunity from being murdered INSIDE your home by the cops. To blame this on the racial composition of a city rather than at the feet of the police department is a cop out (no pun intended). This chit happens all over the country on a fairly regular basis and is a product of police culture and attitudes. Moving does NOTHING to change overall police culture, just ask Jack Yantis.

Another speech.

So what are you doing today to make your community less of a schitthole?

Dallas.

Charge was manslaughter I believe.

The most pissed off people in America are those who live in the Pacific northwest and lack the gumption to move away from that Commie schitthole.

I’ve been over this ad nauseum before but for the slow people here......I live in a place where our 2 deputies are friends and are a part of the community. I don’t have the problems you folks have because of where I live. I interact frequently with our deputies on the island and we’re “friends”. We volunteer at the same places and we help our deputies if they’re in need.

Quit being a dipshitt just to stir the pot and pay attention.

Your “nice speech” reply might’ve gotten a laugh from your buddy W4bear the first time but it’s boring, predictable and not funny.....it just makes you look like an ignorant hillbilly that’s trying to impress her friends. You might only be able to string 4 or 5 words together in coherent thought but those of us that are able to elucidate beyond that aren’t making a speech, we’re contributing our thoughts to an open forum.....there IS a difference and the fact you don’t understand that is not my problem. 😉

You're very emotional for a male.

Now that Bristo has KY cleaned up and turned into a drug free conservative paradise he seems to have turned his attention to the PNW.

Lol....you don’t have clue but you do have almost 58,000 posts of bitching and complaining. Congrats?

I love this state and it’s been my home for 48 years.....while we do plan to move, having bought property up north, we have children in school and they’re more important than what some dumbfuk from Kentucky thinks. You lived in a liberal chithole and bitched about it endlessly until you retired and moved a few miles away, now you regard yourself as the greatest American hero.