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Originally Posted by ctsmith


Also, in skimming this thread, I've seen no one mention the cheating on the ACT/SAT. To me that's way worse than the bribe, which happens every day.


I got a better question... If I can't achieve the the threshold SAT score, and have to cheat, why am I still capable of acing an Ivy League school's curriculum?


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Also, in skimming this thread, I've seen no one mention the cheating on the ACT/SAT. To me that's way worse than the bribe, which happens every day.


I got a better question... If I can't achieve the the threshold SAT score, and have to cheat, why am I still capable of acing an Ivy League school's curriculum?



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I'm more surprised that the fact that this kind of stuff goes on in academia too is such a big news event.

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Guys, I see some of y'all are really have fun with this thread. Got me to laugh with ya a time or 2.

But here's my first reaction when I saw it:

They had at least 5 major news channels to cover announcement live;
CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS and even the BBC.
Don't really take issue with wealthy parents paying to get their kids into Universities.
Use to be they could make large donations to the schools directly (or be an influential politician).
Did take issue with 10 months of investigations - Tax payer funded
But that's not my point!

I got a strong gut feeling FBI was grandstanding. Anyone else?
But why would they grandstand?
Toot their own horn - possibility
Distract from something already in news - maybe
OR some news coming out this week - Yeah did come that out about how FBI miss-handled Clinton investigate.
That could be it! or could be something else today. we'll see


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by ctsmith


Also, in skimming this thread, I've seen no one mention the cheating on the ACT/SAT. To me that's way worse than the bribe, which happens every day.


I got a better question... If I can't achieve the the threshold SAT score, and have to cheat, why am I still capable of acing an Ivy League school's curriculum?

Good point, also, what about those students still enrolled, will they be expelled?

How about the students involved that have already graduated and received a fraudulent degree? Will they be stripped of their diplomas?


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Originally Posted by RaySendero
Guys, I see some of y'all are really have fun with this thread. Got me to laugh with ya a time or 2.

But here's my first reaction when I saw it:

They had at least 5 major news channels to cover announcement live;
CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS and even the BBC.
Don't really take issue with wealthy parents paying to get their kids into Universities.
Use to be they could make large donations to the schools directly (or be an influential politician).
Did take issue with 10 months of investigations - Tax payer funded
But that's not my point!

I got a strong gut feeling FBI was grandstanding. Anyone else?
But why would they grandstand?
Toot their own horn - possibility
Distract from something already in news - maybe
OR some news coming out this week - Yeah did come that out about how FBI miss-handled Clinton investigate.
That could be it! or could be something else today. we'll see




Classic left wing propaganda. "Look at all the rich white people that don't deserve any of the schit they have."

They'll keep this story front and center for a while.


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Originally Posted by deflave
This is one of the funniest stories to break in a while.

Still waiting to hear who from the school was getting paid.
Most of the outrage is from those who DIDN'T get paid.


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How about the students involved that have already graduated and received a fraudulent degree? Will they be stripped of their diplomas?


I'm sure the geniuses running those universities will come up with an objective solution.


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The most enjoyable irony is the fact the coaches were SELLING their precious Title 9 scholarships for women sports nobody watches to the highest bidder. And that's probably the point where somebody in the law got interested.

The rest of it, well, meh. Nothing new, move along.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher

What really bothers me is the corruption of the SAT testing procedures, those tests gotta be an absolute standard, fair across the board.


Why would that bother you?


How many SAT/ACT corruption stories do you have?


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I'm not as happy about this as most are I suppose. I don't know of anyone that was arrested that got the attention that Lori Laughlin did. I think it's a shame but I think they are going after the wrong people. It's the skank that owns the company they paid into to get their kids into college that's more of a culprit than anyone as well as the colleges. I have no doubts that she's pretty much as superficial as the rest of the Hollywood crowd but I haven't heard any rants coming from her about her political leanings though I'm sure are liberal.

She's had a pretty big loss because of all of it and the FBI goes on to destroy someone else's career in the process of what, protecting the country? This crap has been going on since the dawn of education. College athletes get a lot of high paying part time jobs with lots of perks from alumni that amounts to pay for services rendered to the college. Really talented athletes get scholarships to major universities even though they may not have the skill to complete the application. If you're 7'7" and good at basketball you can get a degree at most any major university even if you can't speak or write your name in any language.

This whole thing stinks. It's a shame on lots of levels but the colleges that accept this bribery should be the ones in the news and on the chopping block. It's those institutions that create the environment for the jackass that had the company that bought enrollment for wealthy peoples children. If you've got loads of money and are willing to donate to any college your child will get preferential treatment and that's just the way it is. The trouble is higher education has become a propaganda mill for socialism instead of actual education. that's what needs to get fixed.

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher

What really bothers me is the corruption of the SAT testing procedures, those tests gotta be an absolute standard, fair across the board.


Why would that bother you?


How many SAT/ACT corruption stories do you have?


Dozens.


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Originally Posted by rainshot
I'm not as happy about this as most are I suppose. I don't know of anyone that was arrested that got the attention that Lori Laughlin did. I think it's a shame but I think they are going after the wrong people. It's the skank that owns the company they paid into to get their kids into college that's more of a culprit than anyone as well as the colleges. I have no doubts that she's pretty much as superficial as the rest of the Hollywood crowd but I haven't heard any rants coming from her about her political leanings though I'm sure are liberal.

She's had a pretty big loss because of all of it and the FBI goes on to destroy someone else's career in the process of what, protecting the country? This crap has been going on since the dawn of education. College athletes get a lot of high paying part time jobs with lots of perks from alumni that amounts to pay for services rendered to the college. Really talented athletes get scholarships to major universities even though they may not have the skill to complete the application. If you're 7'7" and good at basketball you can get a degree at most any major university even if you can't speak or write your name in any language.

This whole thing stinks. It's a shame on lots of levels but the colleges that accept this bribery should be the ones in the news and on the chopping block. It's those institutions that create the environment for the jackass that had the company that bought enrollment for wealthy peoples children. If you've got loads of money and are willing to donate to any college your child will get preferential treatment and that's just the way it is. The trouble is higher education has become a propaganda mill for socialism instead of actual education. that's what needs to get fixed.


Of course they crucify the wrong people.

You don't think their precious lib universities are gonna catch any flack do you?


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The most enjoyable irony is the fact the coaches were SELLING their precious Title 9 scholarships for women sports nobody watches to the highest bidder. And that's probably the point where somebody in the law got interested.

The rest of it, well, meh. Nothing new, move along.


Yeah that was a good one too.

Keep spending all those millions on bullschit athletics. It's obviously real important.

Meanwhile 5 year old chinese kids are building nuclear reactors with match sticks, copper and a AA battery.


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Everyone knows the SAT's are anti-negro and anti-minority...except for Asians.

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Originally Posted by deflave
And all the retards (Birdwatcher's a good example) have gone through their whole life thinking the SAT system wasn't corrupted. But now MAGICALLY, it is.

WE GOTTA FIX IT!!!!

LMAO.


Are you seriously suggesting SAT/ACT scores bear no significant correlation with subsequent academic performance?

Are you familiar with the SAT/ACT test security procedures?

In this case IIRC the fraud was not with the test per se, but with fraudulent claims as to the disabled status of the student, how widespread do you believe that is?

Finally, why would you assume anyone would think the ACT/SAT test was incorruptible?


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Everyone knows the SAT's are anti-negro and anti-minority...except for Asians.


What were your scores?


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Originally Posted by deflave
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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher

What really bothers me is the corruption of the SAT testing procedures, those tests gotta be an absolute standard, fair across the board.


Why would that bother you?


How many SAT/ACT corruption stories do you have?


Dozens.



Quick, go google.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher


Are you seriously suggesting SAT/ACT scores bear no significant correlation with subsequent academic performance?

Are you familiar with the SAT/ACT test security procedures?

In this case IIRC the fraud was not with the test per se, but with fraudulent claims as to the disabled status of the student, how widespread do you believe that is?

Finally, why would you assume anyone would think the ACT/SAT test was incorruptible?


No.

Yes.

Very.

Because their reaction seems to be one of shock and their previous thoughts regarding most subjects make me believe they're mentally handicapped.


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Quick, go google.


I think instead I'll just laugh at you.


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