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Was a little surprised to see the Chrony reading 2750-2775 fps while shooting my CZ 457 17HMR over the weekend. Was shooting Hornady V-Max 17gr ammo. Also shot my centerfire rifle and speeds were as expected so I don't think it was chronograph error. Curious if it's a hot lot of ammo, the 24" barrel on this rifle or if 200+ fps over the label on the box is common?


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It's not uncommon for 17HMR to post higher velocity than stated on the box. Unfortunately it's also not uncommon to see high S.D. (as well as extreme spread) with 17HMR ammo.

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Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
It's not uncommon for 17HMR to post higher velocity than stated on the box. Unfortunately it's also not uncommon to see high S.D. (as well as extreme spread) with 17HMR ammo.


I did notice a fair amount of velocity variation - High just over 2800 low 2740, but the majority were inside the 2750-2775 range. I can imagine with that little case a tiny variation in powder volume would make a difference.


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Originally Posted by centershot
Was a little surprised to see the Chrony reading 2750-2775 fps while shooting my CZ 457 17HMR over the weekend. Was shooting Hornady V-Max 17gr ammo. Also shot my centerfire rifle and speeds were as expected so I don't think it was chronograph error. Curious if it's a hot lot of ammo, the 24" barrel on this rifle or if 200+ fps over the label on the box is common?



Often in Hummer...chopping from 24" to 20",actually speeds 'em up. Standards Fare in this AO,to do just that. Hint.

18" LW spout on a Custom 77/22 Hummer here.

Hint.

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'Nother 18" LW on a Custom 77/22 Hummer here. SAME ammo,outta SAME box.

Hint.

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Just saying.

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Hint.................


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Guessing those sculls and crossbones probably added at least 100fps.


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I've yet to see a McMillan slow a rifle down.

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stick have ya ever cut a hummer tube to 16.5"? how does the velo compare to your 18"ers?? i figured cutting my cz hummer barrel to 16.5" would get me a 17mach2 with more avaliable ammo...
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18" is as short as I've rolled...but chopping spouts don't aspook me.

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I got 2577 fps with Hornady 17 gr., 2666 with CCI A17, and 2450 with CCI 20 gr FMJ., all out of a Ruger American Rimfire.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I've yet to see a McMillan slow a rifle down.

Hint.................(grin)


Quite possibly the ugliest bunch of rifles I have ever seen. Hint.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick


Often in Hummer...chopping from 24" to 20",actually speeds 'em up. Standards Fare in this AO,to do just that. Hint.

18" LW spout on a Custom 77/22 Hummer here.

Hint.

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'Nother 18" LW on a Custom 77/22 Hummer here. SAME ammo,outta SAME box.

Hint.

[Linked Image]

Just saying.

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Hint.................





You may want to put that chronograph within 100 yards of the muzzle when you measure the speed of those longer barrels...HINT


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I averaged 2777 for 3 rounds, Marlin 917V. That was at 4600' and about 95 degrees.


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2775 seems to be about average for me also. 4000' and 40-50 degrees. Need to check it on a hot day.


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When all the fuss started about the 17 HMR, picked up a pencil barreled Savage 93 to see what was up. First impression, was that it was more accurate at 100 yards than I expected it to be, as putting five shots inside an inch wasn't much of a challenge, using a Harris and a rear bag from the bench.

Then one day an old buddy was at the range with his chronograph set up, so we sent five through the screens. He was busy looking thru his spotting scope and noting that they were well within 3/4's of an inch. Then we got to looking at the readouts. Forget now what it said on the Hornady box, but they were all 25 to 50 FPS faster than the advertised velocity. He asked when was the last time I'd seen a new round that exceeded its advertised performance. Said probably never?

Wasn't much of a woodchuck round in my opinion, so I sold it to someone that wanted it for his son, along with the leftover Hornady ammo. Have part of a box of Remington Vmax ammo, but it doesn't list the speed on the label, like the Hornady stuff did.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
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Was a little surprised to see the Chrony reading 2750-2775 fps while shooting my CZ 457 17HMR over the weekend. Was shooting Hornady V-Max 17gr ammo. Also shot my centerfire rifle and speeds were as expected so I don't think it was chronograph error. Curious if it's a hot lot of ammo, the 24" barrel on this rifle or if 200+ fps over the label on the box is common?



Often in Hummer...chopping from 24" to 20",actually speeds 'em up. Standards Fare in this AO,to do just that. Hint.

18" LW spout on a Custom 77/22 Hummer here.

Hint.

[Linked Image]

'Nother 18" LW on a Custom 77/22 Hummer here. SAME ammo,outta SAME box.

Hint.

[Linked Image]

Just saying.

[Linked Image]

Hint.................




Interesting to see a velocity loss with a longer barrel. I mean, I've always heard that that often occurs with rimfires, but never seen an actual example of same. Thanks, Stick!


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Pardon my not guessing.

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2560 from A17 shooting CCI green 16grain. 2590 with Hornady 17 Vmax.
Savage 93 yielded 2525 with CCI GREEN 16gr. 2575 from model 93 with Hornady 17Vmax

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