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Pretty obvious who the leaker was. The Asst AG Explain. Not sure I got that one. Purely conjecture on my part, but only a few people knew about this (less than five or six) and they surely included the AG/AAG, and of course the C U N T Rice. But the way she answered sure as hell gave me pause. Clapper as well and we all know he has a record of lying. Operative words for her and Clapper when asked "not knowingly"...
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Trumpkins overlook the fact that there is a real good chance that Hillary would be President if Comey hadn't announced a re-opening of the investigation into her emails. Based on that, it's hard to claim he tanked for her.
He had to consider that he was killing his political career with his bizarre news conference back in July when he indicted her in the court of public opinion and let her walk legally.
Maybe he was dancing to Ol Bills tune all along? Shielding him and Lynch at Hillary's expense?
Anybody think Bill relished the role of "First Dude"?
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Its simple. Comey sealed his fate after his July 5 news conference. He became the chief investigator and chief prosecutor. That is a usurpation of power and a blurring of the judiciary lines of responsibility. The was simply the justification, the real reasons were many. I'm quite frankly shocked at the amount of resistance to Trump's "swamp draining" that's coming from all corners. I guess we should have expected it, but it's still eye opening to see how much resistance is coming from the mainstream media, congress (especially the RINOs), and the deeply embedded leftists in the bureaucracy that was inherited from Obama. Trump seems to be doing it methodically, picking it apart one brick at a time. Most of us want him to just start canning every leftist in that sewer, but in reality I'm sure it's not that easy and it takes time to do it right. Trump's making progress, but it's going to take a while to sort out the deep cancer that has infected our government.
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I have an unconfirmed rumor --------- but I think it's probably true.
I am good friends with a 2 "high level government employees". Both told me that the President wanted to set things up to confront Comey, but Comey made it a point to be "too busy" and flew to LA to give his speech. There is a possibility (or maybe a probability) he had some behind the seens meetings to attend too, one of which may have been with a courier for Obama. The speech is the cover story for the real reason the trip was important to him. The speech and the meeting are confirmed but the focus of the meeting is not and was kept secret. Both of my friends tell me that they can only speculate as to the content of those meetings and why is was so important to Comey, but the process of elimination slims it down to only a few reasons, none of which were likely to be legit or they would have been public, and on the itinerary. My friends details are 2nd hand too, but close to the top in their sources. Hence my belief that their story is probably accurate.
Anyway, Comey was not going to cooperate with Trump's re-write of his schedule, and made it a point to "fly the finger" and "make him wait".
So President Trump did what I believe I would have done. Probably what any good manager would do. He fired him anyway, and let the press tell him.
So the idea that he should have done it face to face may or may not have some merit, but Comey forced the issue (again) and this time Trump just threw the switch anyway.
I say Good for Trump! Good for the USA!
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By October, when he was bringing attention to a new cache of Clinton emails, Trump loved him—but in November, when Comey said he hadn't actually found material that justified charges, the pendulum had swung again. Because Comey has always been a game player, trying to play both sides. Duplicitous.
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Who's ever gonna replace Comey?
Gordy? Pistole?
Giuliani is about senile, McCabe is a wanna be D Senators husband, Christie is crooked as schit and has too much baggage.
Either way, not sure how much it matters.
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Who's ever gonna replace Comey?
Gordy? Pistole?
Giuliani is about senile, McCabe is a wanna be D Senators husband, Christie is crooked as schit and has too much baggage.
Either way, not sure how much it matters. It matters.
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Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192?cid=apnWhen was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out? My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
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Trump don't need a high profile guy with name recognition. Gowdy talks a good game and maybe he would actually DO something as Director, but I doubt it.
Maybe a State Atty General with a track record?
Trump don't want anyone competing for attention.......ask Bannon.
Whoever he appoints will likely not last out Trumps term.
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Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192?cid=apnWhen was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out? My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. Will you PLEASE tell me how this " collusion" could have helped Trump win?
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Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause. Couldn't agree more. But Trump has already made his 1st mistake in accomplishing the goal that you've laid out & that is with his interim appointment...........................guy's totally in the tank for Hilary & the progressives & is a butt-buddy of Terry MacAliffe.................he should have been swept out too along with Comey. Who Trump puts in is very critical at this point & he doesn't need to either play softball or pander to the Dems with his choice..............but time will tell. MM
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Get someone in the FBI that does wheir job the way it is supposed to be done and a magical moment will happen.
All of those folks that leak and generally try to gum up the works will think long and hard about doing it,when folks get prosecuted for same.
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In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. Comey lost ALL credibility by simply not doing his job and sending the criminal charges to Justice Dept. last July which is exactly what a law enforcement officer should do. His statement of "intent" was a slap in the face to me and millions like me as it should have then had the prosecution send those charges to the grand jury which is you and I....we were cut out of the deal...justice was not served but it still can be if your smart enough to see past the smokescreen of "Russian" collusion....I have my doubts about your ability to do that...
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Given the swiftness of how it happened, and how Comey was a long ways from his office, I'm thinking Trump and team wanted to make sure Comey couldn't destroy any information. I'm thinking Comey wasn't even allowed back in the building.
Get a new director in, and start cleaning house. We have 8 years of Obama to undo and he left landmines everywhere.
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Only a few other liberals here actually care.
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Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192?cid=apnWhen was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out? My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. Oh please, enough with the drama already. Comey does not have credibility across both aisles, both sides wanted him gone at different times in the past year. IF, and that's a big IF, Trump colluded with the Russians, where's the [bleep] proof? He's had at least 3 Obama appointees say there was no collusion with the Russians. Quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192?cid=apnWhen was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out? My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. Sorry, don't agree. Comey made him shelf a political hack ,and was playing bloth sides. I see nothing wrong with a Preisidnet wanting a clean slate is you have a FBI Directr that is starting to enjoy his limelight. Trump - Russia? Pffft! More like Putin screwing with the Clintons just to screw with the Clintons.
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Trump is catching hell for saying comey told him 3 times he was not under investigation! Is Trump trying to show us just how political comey became? He was currying favor to keep his job!
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