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Hey guys,
So I purchased a Montana in 308 about 6 months back, and after shaving down the mag box it’s been a fair shooter often putting factory fodder into .75 and under. No complaints. I won that round of Kimber Roulette.
I know where I can grab a Subalpine in 280 for a smoking deal. I’ve always wanted a 280. It’s new, never fired.
It seems like the Subalpine is a Mountain Ascent without the bolt fluting and brake(and maybe a few other things). Seems to still have the fluted barrel - but maybe I’m wrong.
In any case, has there been a rash of issues with these guns? Anything above and beyond the general Montana issues? Any reason I shouldn’t pull the trigger?
Thanks guys. How did it shoot before you "shaved down the mag box?"
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Barrett Fieldcraft made playing Kimber Roulette obsolete
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Muzzle brakes and threaded barrels are messing up a lot of otherwise nice rifles. Was on the fence about purchasing one of the new Montana’s with the threaded barrel, but imo it’s very well done and really not an issue.
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Threaded barrels are just ugly to me. But I am an old man now, heck I still like nice wood and blued steel.
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Barrett Fieldcraft made playing Kimber Roulette obsolete
Maybe for you, but not for me. No locking bolt on a hunting rifle? Seriously? Even my POS Savage Weather Warrior has a locking bolt handle as does my Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.2 made in 1954. I won't buy a Fieldcraft, Remington clone or any bolt action rifle that doesn't have a locking bolt.
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Trystan Not so sure about that. Have had zero issues with my Montana’s and they are as pleasing to the eye and feel as good in the hand as just about any rifle that I have ever carried.
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Hey guys,
So I purchased a Montana in 308 about 6 months back, and after shaving down the mag box it’s been a fair shooter often putting factory fodder into .75 and under. No complaints. I won that round of Kimber Roulette.
I know where I can grab a Subalpine in 280 for a smoking deal. I’ve always wanted a 280. It’s new, never fired.
It seems like the Subalpine is a Mountain Ascent without the bolt fluting and brake(and maybe a few other things). Seems to still have the fluted barrel - but maybe I’m wrong.
In any case, has there been a rash of issues with these guns? Anything above and beyond the general Montana issues? Any reason I shouldn’t pull the trigger?
Thanks guys. How did it shoot before you "shaved down the mag box?" Didn’t bother trying - as soon as I received it I checked it over according to the Montana preflight and found the mag box binding. Took it to the grinder at work and it was good. Like I mentioned, no issues with it shooting. It’ll shoot most factory stuff into an inch and precision hunter/match into .75 or better. I’m sure handloads would be better but honestly I bought it for a 500 yard rifle and it’ll do that easily. Maybe one day I’ll break down and work up a load for it.
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Trystan affirmative!
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Trystan affirmative! I disagree here, the Ergo's of the Kimber Montana stock are miles ahead of the Fieldcraft.....I actually planned to buy a Fieldcraft till i got a chance to handle one and for Me it feels like a 2x4 compared to a Kimber Montana....Hb
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I wouldn't have minded a Fieldcraft, but I got a good deal on the Kimber. Not only that, Barret isn't yet offering them in 280(I know, its coming)... not to mention they don't offer any of the long action cartridges in a threaded model.
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Trystan affirmative! This
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Threaded barrels are just ugly to me. But I am an old man now, heck I still like nice wood and blued steel.
You got that right! I have a replacement Kimber (Montana) that is only available with threads for a brake (this for a 7mm08?), and is real ugly. Plus the coarse steel checkering tears up anything I lean it against. It came with a factory 100 yard target that suggests it may shoot well, but even if so, it will be like trying to love a hammer.
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Cut the threads off and have it crowned. You’ll lose about 1/2”. Easy fix!
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Cut the threads off and have it crowned. You’ll lose about 1/2”. Easy fix! Yep.I agree. I just don't get all the muzzle brakes on rifles these days or the allure of a suppressor.
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Cut the threads off and have it crowned. You’ll lose about 1/2”. Easy fix! Yep.I agree. I just don't get all the muzzle brakes on rifles these days or the allure of a suppressor. I agree, I dont get it either...a Muzzle brake on bolt action .308 win? Really?......Hb
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Cut the threads off and have it crowned. You’ll lose about 1/2”. Easy fix! Yep.I agree. I just don't get all the muzzle brakes on rifles these days or the allure of a suppressor. I agree, I dont get it either...a Muzzle brake on bolt action .308 win? Really?......Hb And why is this a "standard" barrel treatment lately. I suspect 95 percent hate these screwy things. If anything at all, this ought to be a special request option.
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Yeah but for some reason a bunch of rifle makers feel they got to put this abomination on the end of their barrels......Hb
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Like the 308, 280’s are fun to work with.
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I've got 2 Kimber's, 1 Montana in 25-06 and an wood/blues 270 both from the 2006-2008 period. Both are shooters, not one-holers, but better than MOA. Neither likes to be pushed velocity-wise, but give them a velocity they like and they settled right down. For the most part agree on the threading, however my wife just got diagnosed with neck and spine issues and Dr said to minimize the recoil. A 6.5 or 270 with a brake might be ugly, but if it keeps her smiling and shooting I'll make it happen.
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I know where I can grab a Subalpine in 280 for a smoking deal. I’ve always wanted a 280. It’s new, never fired. A smoking deal on a new Kimber in a caliber you want is a no-brainer. It is probably going to shoot just fine. If it doesn't shoot the way you want, you can easily recoup your money, so it is pretty much a risk-free proposition.
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