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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Pretty good. I'd give it 4 out of 5. If you're looking for non-stop action, this ain't your thing. The shootout is anti-climatic. It's more of a character study/history type thing without being anything like a documentary. It's not Hatfields and McCoys. The thing that jumped out at me was how subdued and gentlemanly Hamer and his sidekick were. Probably pretty realistic.


Yep we watched it as a family last night same thing stood out to me.

His trip to the gun store was like a dream to me literally.

That BAR...
I think it was on DeFlave's thread about this show coming out...I argued that there wouldn't be many gunstores with those type guns around. I get your dream, but as far as the movie was concerned, I think it was highly unrealistic and may have been an anti-gun thing. They did talk about how Bonnie and Clyde got their own military guns from an arsenal. I expect that Hamer got his the same way.


Who knows what a gun store in Texas in that time period had in inventory.

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Were feral hogs a problem in TX at that time? Some of those guns might have been useful.


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Feral hogs have been prominent in Texas for many many years but the numbers used to be managed by folks hunting and trapping them to feed their families. While many still eat them it's more of a depredation thing these days and as such there numbers have exploded.


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Pretty good. I'd give it 4 out of 5. If you're looking for non-stop action, this ain't your thing. The shootout is anti-climatic. It's more of a character study/history type thing without being anything like a documentary. It's not Hatfields and McCoys. The thing that jumped out at me was how subdued and gentlemanly Hamer and his sidekick were. Probably pretty realistic.


Yep we watched it as a family last night same thing stood out to me.

His trip to the gun store was like a dream to me literally.

That BAR...
I think it was on DeFlave's thread about this show coming out...I argued that there wouldn't be many gunstores with those type guns around. I get your dream, but as far as the movie was concerned, I think it was highly unrealistic and may have been an anti-gun thing. They did talk about how Bonnie and Clyde got their own military guns from an arsenal. I expect that Hamer got his the same way.


Who knows what a gun store in Texas in that time period had in inventory.
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Pretty good. I'd give it 4 out of 5. If you're looking for non-stop action, this ain't your thing. The shootout is anti-climatic. It's more of a character study/history type thing without being anything like a documentary. It's not Hatfields and McCoys. The thing that jumped out at me was how subdued and gentlemanly Hamer and his sidekick were. Probably pretty realistic.



Completely, TOTALLY off topic...but I gotta ask about your avatar. I'm thinking that's a famous golfer and that I should be able to remember the name, but damned if I can and it's driving me nuts. Help me out!
It's a pic of myself. I don't know if I'm famous for golfing.



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I enjoyed the movie. It wasn't an action movie like you'd think. It was two old retired guys getting together for one final ride. I expect it was about as accurate a portrayal of an actual event as one would ever see.

I particularly liked the radio news casts. Nothing but facts. I wash we could still get that today.

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Originally Posted by RiverRider
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Pretty good. I'd give it 4 out of 5. If you're looking for non-stop action, this ain't your thing. The shootout is anti-climatic. It's more of a character study/history type thing without being anything like a documentary. It's not Hatfields and McCoys. The thing that jumped out at me was how subdued and gentlemanly Hamer and his sidekick were. Probably pretty realistic.



Completely, TOTALLY off topic...but I gotta ask about your avatar. I'm thinking that's a famous golfer and that I should be able to remember the name, but damned if I can and it's driving me nuts. Help me out!
It's a pic of myself. I don't know if I'm famous for golfing.



I guess my mind is just screwing with me. Way too much data on the old hard drive...and I think I may have a bad sector or some missing .dll files. Maybe a defrag with some Jose Cuervo will fix me up.
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No problem. I used to get mistaken for famous actors all the time. It's a first to get mistaken for a golfer, so that's pretty good.

I'm more likely to get mistaken for the guy playing Hamer's boss now...

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Ethan:

About the Hamer family the local paper here had a couple stories on it and how the writer and director had met several times with Frank Hamer jr and got his blessing in the script.

As to a small town gunstore having all that, if I remember right Hamer mail ordered some and borrowed some more from a national guard armory. There’s an article somewhere in the net (Jim Wilson’s) site maybe about him actually ran penetration tests before starting out and carried a .38 super rather than his saa old lucky and going to a larger caliber rifle as they did a better job of penetrating a ford door

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Originally Posted by Kellywk
Ethan:

About the Hamer family the local paper here had a couple stories on it and how the writer and director had met several times with Frank Hamer jr and got his blessing in the script.

As to a small town gunstore having all that, if I remember right Hamer mail ordered some and borrowed some more from a national guard armory. There’s an article somewhere in the net (Jim Wilson’s) site maybe about him actually ran penetration tests before starting out and carried a .38 super rather than his saa old lucky and going to a larger caliber rifle as they did a better job of penetrating a ford door

That's pretty cool. If I'm ever in San Antonio again, I'm gonna look up where Col. Askins' "compound" was. Off-topic, but still...

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I wonder in real life if anyone disrespected Capt'n Hamer like was portrayed in this movie. A celebrated Texas Ranger of his reputation doesn't seem like someone that would get disrespected or tolerate it either.


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What I liked about the movie is that it showed Bonnie and Clyde for who they were, cold blooded killers. I was thinking what would be the reaction today if law enforcement took someone out the way they did it? But with the number of law enforcement officers that were killed by Bonnie and Clyde that was the best way to take them out.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Y’all talking about the original or a new version?
Original? This is a new Netflix movie with Keven Costner and Woody Harrelson. It's about Frank Hamer's pursuit of Bonnie and Clyde. It all focuses on Law Enforcement and nothing on Bonnie and Clyde. They're just faceless killers that need to be put down like mad dogs according to the government. It does show how they are heroes to the people. I wonder if Hamer's family was okay with his portrayal. In the movie, Hamer is not portrayed as a cold blooded killer, but lots of people seem to view him that way in it.


I started a thread about that:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...1887/re-more-the-highwaymen#Post13641887

The article I referenced is about a year old, but it was new to me. It was a bit long, but I thought a worthwhile read.


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What I liked about the movie is that it showed Bonnie and Clyde for who they were, cold blooded killers. I was thinking what would be the reaction today if law enforcement took someone out the way they did it? But with the number of law enforcement officers that were killed by Bonnie and Clyde that was the best way to take them out.


Still amazing how many people of the day turned out for the little rat mugs funerals.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Ethan:

About the Hamer family the local paper here had a couple stories on it and how the writer and director had met several times with Frank Hamer jr and got his blessing in the script.

As to a small town gunstore having all that, if I remember right Hamer mail ordered some and borrowed some more from a national guard armory. There’s an article somewhere in the net (Jim Wilson’s) site maybe about him actually ran penetration tests before starting out and carried a .38 super rather than his saa old lucky and going to a larger caliber rifle as they did a better job of penetrating a ford door

That's pretty cool. If I'm ever in San Antonio again, I'm gonna look up where Col. Askins' "compound" was. Off-topic, but still...


Askins compound was about a mile up the road from my Inlaws house. Drove by it a couple times to check it out. They subdivided the land so it’s a big White House surrounded by a subdivision. Believe some geanealogical society owns it now. It’s off blanco road about 1 mile outside the 410 loop near the airport

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Originally Posted by Kellywk
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Ethan:

About the Hamer family the local paper here had a couple stories on it and how the writer and director had met several times with Frank Hamer jr and got his blessing in the script.

As to a small town gunstore having all that, if I remember right Hamer mail ordered some and borrowed some more from a national guard armory. There’s an article somewhere in the net (Jim Wilson’s) site maybe about him actually ran penetration tests before starting out and carried a .38 super rather than his saa old lucky and going to a larger caliber rifle as they did a better job of penetrating a ford door

That's pretty cool. If I'm ever in San Antonio again, I'm gonna look up where Col. Askins' "compound" was. Off-topic, but still...


Askins compound was about a mile up the road from my Inlaws house. Drove by it a couple times to check it out. They subdivided the land so it’s a big White House surrounded by a subdivision. Believe some geanealogical society owns it now. It’s off blanco road about 1 mile outside the 410 loop near the airport
Thanks for the info!

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Watched it last night. Thought it was quite good.

Costner and Harrelson played, well, Costner and Harrelson. Good casting.
Was a neat look back at America in many ways.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Y’all talking about the original or a new version?
Original? This is a new Netflix movie with Keven Costner and Woody Harrelson. It's about Frank Hamer's pursuit of Bonnie and Clyde. It all focuses on Law Enforcement and nothing on Bonnie and Clyde. They're just faceless killers that need to be put down like mad dogs according to the government. It does show how they are heroes to the people. I wonder if Hamer's family was okay with his portrayal. In the movie, Hamer is not portrayed as a cold blooded killer, but lots of people seem to view him that way in it.


Thanks EE. I’ll have to check it out!


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Originally Posted by gregintenn
I enjoyed the movie. It wasn't an action movie like you'd think. It was two old retired guys getting together for one final ride. I expect it was about as accurate a portrayal of an actual event as one would ever see.

I particularly liked the radio news casts. Nothing but facts. I wash we could still get that today.

The great depression was a rough time for many.


I really enjoyed it... less Hollywood that many 'action' movies of today...

as far as the Depression being a rough time...

I recall my Granddad saying that in his county in Southern West Virginia, the only reason they even heard there was a depression going on, was from a few news papers that filtered into the local area... and what they heard on the few people that owned a radio, and lived high enough on a mountain top to get any reception....

He'd tell us when we were kids, during the depression in the local economy ( If they really even had one).... that pretty much every body had NO MORE or No Less than they did, before the "depression" or after the Depression...

communication wise, World War 2, probably did more to bring Monroe County WVa into , or at least closer to the real world....

people had a roof over their heads and most folks, grew their own food, and it fed the family, but little else...

My grandmother's family was a little better off than most, but she wore shoes to school only two times from the first to the last day.... first time was the first day of first grade, and she was ridiculed by all the other kids, because their family couldn't afford shoes for their kids... the second time was when she graduated high school, because it was requested by her dad....

we might call it poverty today... but no one had any more or less than about everybody else... and those in need, were usually helped out by others at their local mountain church....or friends, neighbors and relatives...
as my grand parents said.. "We didn't know we were poor.... because so was everybody else"


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Y’all talking about the original or a new version?
Original? This is a new Netflix movie with Keven Costner and Woody Harrelson. It's about Frank Hamer's pursuit of Bonnie and Clyde. It all focuses on Law Enforcement and nothing on Bonnie and Clyde. They're just faceless killers that need to be put down like mad dogs according to the government. It does show how they are heroes to the people. I wonder if Hamer's family was okay with his portrayal. In the movie, Hamer is not portrayed as a cold blooded killer, but lots of people seem to view him that way in it.


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