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Anybody ever find out Hamer's wife's reaction when he brought her car back home? That was a loose end for me.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Anybody ever find out Hamer's wife's reaction when he brought her car back home? That was a loose end for me. That chick played a pro in Deadwood and currently (or the last time I saw it) is on Fear the Walking Dead.
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This is a screen shot of them grabbing guns a split second before Hamer starts shooting. As soon as Bonnie looked down and moved, he let go. There's no way that they could have brought rifles into play in the car.
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I think the older we get, the less capable we are of fighting, physically and mentally. But with old age comes the "don't give a chit". The line may have moved over time due to life experiences, but when crossed the response delivered without argument, punching or threats. Just shoot the fugger.
I wouldn't mess with anybody, esp some old fart. He from a time when men still had spines.
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I think the older we get, the less capable we are of fighting, physically and mentally. But with old age comes the "don't give a chit". The line may have moved over time due to life experiences, but when crossed the response delivered without argument, punching or threats. Just shoot the fugger.
I wouldn't mess with anybody, esp some old fart. He from a time when men still had spines. “Life in prison” means less and less.
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Rock Chuck: I have brought "Rifles into play" many thousands of times from dozens of different vehicles! I think your contention is incorrect. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Ted Hinton himself shot that footage with a camera that a reporter from the Dallas Morning News had given him.
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I don't believe it did show he gave them a chance.
To me it showed he was there to kill them. And he did. He never stepped off the hill and they never said “boo” to them. When Clyde slowed down to almost a stop, they all stood up and shot the schit out of that car. Just read up on this recently, one of the other guys present with Hamer was the first to open fire, no warning given, which was a cause of embarrassment to him later. Dunno that we will ever know Frank Hamer’s game plan, but in his career IIRC he killed around 60 men, most of whom likely needed killing. In their shoes I woulda opened fire too, Barrow and Parker had already killed a number of Cops and regular folk.
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Hamer says in the movie he is there to kill them at least three times. I don’t think they were trying to portray anything else.
At least two other Ranger Captains claimed that they were offered the job before it was given to Hamer, but they turned it down saying,” We don’t ambush people and we don’t shoot women.” Sounds like jealousy to me, but it reinforces the idea that killing Clyde Barrow was the plan all along and that Bonnie would likely be collateral damage.
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I don't believe it did show he gave them a chance.
To me it showed he was there to kill them. And he did. He never stepped off the hill and they never said “boo” to them. When Clyde slowed down to almost a stop, they all stood up and shot the schit out of that car. Just read up on this recently, one of the other guys present with Hamer was the first to open fire, no warning given, which was a cause of embarrassment to him later. Dunno that we will ever know Frank Hamer’s game plan, but in his career IIRC he killed around 60 men, most of whom likely needed killing. In their shoes I woulda opened fire too, Barrow and Parker had already killed a number of Cops and regular folk. They all agreed (about the only thing they all the agreed on) that the Louisiana deputy shot first and hit Clyde in the head killing him instantly. Oh, yeah they all agreed that Bonnie was screaming as they shot her.
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Lee Simmons promised the dying prison guard that everyone involved in the prison break would die. And they all did except for Methvin who gave up Bonnie and Clyde. It was an execution from the start. But they wouldn’t have surrendered anyway most likely.
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Rock Chuck: I have brought "Rifles into play" many thousands of times from dozens of different vehicles! I think your contention is incorrect. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy Well... Yeah.....but these guys are just ordinary, run of the mill heroes.....not a Super Hero such as you.
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I don't believe it did show he gave them a chance.
To me it showed he was there to kill them. And he did. He never stepped off the hill and they never said “boo” to them. When Clyde slowed down to almost a stop, they all stood up and shot the schit out of that car. Just read up on this recently, one of the other guys present with Hamer was the first to open fire, no warning given, which was a cause of embarrassment to him later. Dunno that we will ever know Frank Hamer’s game plan, but in his career IIRC he killed around 60 men, most of whom likely needed killing. In their shoes I woulda opened fire too, Barrow and Parker had already killed a number of Cops and regular folk. They all agreed (about the only thing they all the agreed on) that the Louisiana deputy shot first and hit Clyde in the head killing him instantly. Oh, yeah they all agreed that Bonnie was screaming as they shot her. Grandpa Marvin said that Hamer told him she screamed like a wildcat. He also said that when Hamer got back from Louisiana he stopped by their shop, dropped off one gun. The Model 8. And all he said was "clean it" and left the shop. I know that recently there has been some ressarch stating the only Model 8 involved in the shoot was used by the afore mentioned deputy that shot Clyde in the head. Apparently it is thought the Parish Sheriff and Hamer were armed with sawed off Model 11 Remingtons in 12’ga. There is one photoed on top of the car after the shootout that was allegely the one used by the sheriff.
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curedog4570: If you think a normal person such as I (by the way I never claimed to be a super-hero - are you mentally deficient?) can NOT bring into play a Rifle from inside a vehicle then you, indeed, are as stupid as you make yourself appear to be! I have brought Rifles into play from inside vehicles for well over half a century now and plan on doing so for many more years to come! Sheesh - your mind must be addled? In fact I brought "Rifle's" (notice the plural!) into play from inside my vehicle just yesterday and once it warms up a bit here I plan on doing so again this afternoon! Maybe a rabid dog has bitten you recently? Double sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Unlike you, I figured that Rock Chuck has fired rifles from inside vehicles just as I have..... countless times.So, with that in mind,I considered that he was cognizant of the difference between shooting a coyote or Prarie Dog and drawing against a Lawman that already has you in his sights.
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I’d call the shot of hand movement toward the firearms artistic license.
It’s a pretty safe bet although the only people that could state that honestly would be the perps.
And yes. Those weapons could be easily brought into action from inside the vehicle.
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I don't believe it did show he gave them a chance.
To me it showed he was there to kill them. And he did. He never stepped off the hill and they never said “boo” to them. When Clyde slowed down to almost a stop, they all stood up and shot the schit out of that car. Just read up on this recently, one of the other guys present with Hamer was the first to open fire, no warning given, which was a cause of embarrassment to him later. Dunno that we will ever know Frank Hamer’s game plan, but in his career IIRC he killed around 60 men, most of whom likely needed killing. In their shoes I woulda opened fire too, Barrow and Parker had already killed a number of Cops and regular folk. They all agreed (about the only thing they all the agreed on) that the Louisiana deputy shot first and hit Clyde in the head killing him instantly. Oh, yeah they all agreed that Bonnie was screaming as they shot her. Grandpa Marvin said that Hamer told him she screamed like a wildcat. He also said that when Hamer got back from Louisiana he stopped by their shop, dropped off one gun. The Model 8. And all he said was "clean it" and left the shop. I know that recently there has been some ressarch stating the only Model 8 involved in the shoot was used by the afore mentioned deputy that shot Clyde in the head. Apparently it is thought the Parish Sheriff and Hamer were armed with sawed off Model 11 Remingtons in 12’ga. There is one photoed on top of the car after the shootout that was allegely the one used by the sheriff. Jake Petmecky? Didn't he have one of the handful of Python's in 41 Mag?
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It’s been all of three days since I hit the brakes on my pickup, poked my Marlin 30 30 out the window and shot at a coyote hightailing it across a wheat field. I do it an about a weekly basis.
I even hit one occasionally, but if I’m serious, I replace the Marlin with a Hornet or 244 AI. They have barrels short enough to be handy in a pickup.
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