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Please everyone IGNORE Piddler!
It’s not hard.
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Please everyone IGNORE Piddler!
It’s not hard. Yeah, everyone follow cfran's lead.
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Just toward the end of Season 1, that's the episode. As I watch this series, I can't help comparing the Bartlet administration to the Dumpster's. The comparison is similar to comparing the West Wing to The Apprentice. High quality writing, excellent dialog, topical subjects which recur today, wonderful acting, etc, to pure schlock on every level. I couldn't watch The Apprentice because it was so bad, the lead was a total loser. Just like today's White House. Y'all should watch it. Watched the series in its entirety 4-5 times. I purchased it as soon as it was available. Well developed story lines and characters..........left and right. Without spoiling your enjoyment of the remaining 5+ seasons...............it's accurate in that it becomes far less altruistic than petty infighting. Bartlet and his staff are more reminiscent of Nixon and his.........without the level of shared guilt. If you lean to the right, Ainsley Hayes is a character worthy of viewership. A winner in every scene she was in..........and not just visually. We watched 4 episodes last night, finishing season 2. It won the Emmy for Best Drama Series the first four years it ran. Sorkin left after that and I've read that it went downhill a bit. We'll see. Probably my favorite character is Donna thus far. The scene I referenced above was when Bartlet came clean on his MS, he told Charlie not to lie to protect him. He said if Charlie lied at any time out of a sense of loyalty, any lie, anytime, that Bartlet would be done with him. Marked contrast to Trump, who lied personally 8158 times in his first two years as president. He only hires people who will lie for him. Sad. Yep, Lawrence O Donnell played a big role in the series, and knows how a president should act. That's why he's disgusted with the Dumpster. We really enjoyed "Newsroom", too, another Sorkin series. Brilliant writer.
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Guess I shouldn't be surprised O'Donnell is i on it, he writes daily for the imaginary news channel.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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We watched 4 episodes last night, finishing season 2. It won the Emmy for Best Drama Series the first four years it ran. Sorkin left after that and I've read that it went downhill a bit. We'll see. Probably my favorite character is Donna thus far. The scene I referenced above was when Bartlet came clean on his MS, he told Charlie not to lie to protect him. He said if Charlie lied at any time out of a sense of loyalty, any lie, anytime, that Bartlet would be done with him. Marked contrast to Trump, who lied personally 8158 times in his first two years as president. He only hires people who will lie for him. Sad. Yep, Lawrence O Donnell played a big role in the series, and knows how a president should act. That's why he's disgusted with the Dumpster.
We really enjoyed "Newsroom", too, another Sorkin series. Brilliant writer.
On balance.......it's a very well-written series. Jed's omission of his MS comes back to haunt him, and it's questionable whether the country was well served. But he wanted to be president. But that's just one small ingredient of a compelling show. The rejection and angst of this series because of the writers and a story about a Democratic administration is misplaced. There are several well-developed Republican characters that provide great balance. There would have to be for this series to maintain the popularity it did. The most universally disliked character in the series is the most far left. I'll bet you've detected that already. It gets worse. And..............you just like all the sexual tension surrounding Donna. It also gets worse......
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Nope, not sexual tension. I just find her wholesome, sincere, idealistic and bright. Hard for me to not like that. I grew up in a time before "breast augmentation", which I find unattractive, and when the only people with tattoos were biker trash and sailors who ended up drunk somewhere in the Far East and thought that three masted sailing ships and "MOM" on their forearms were a great idea at the time.
Did you notice that Sam seems to have a mild Bell's Palsy?
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Its a shame that everyone wants to compare Trump to Nixon...
Apples and Ornges, Black and White, even if you would want to mix in a little gray...
None of that even begins to come close.
Nixon though misguided always tried and thought he was doing what was best for the country.
Volunteered for military service and to serve in a combat area.
Worked his entire life thinking about country,not wealth...
Trump on the otherhand is just the opposite... nothing good to say about the guy.
He's a disgrace to the country and himself.
Shaming or attempting to shame Nixon today comparing him to Trump isn't going to make anything any better.
And in fact there is no way to compare the two, or to anyone else.
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Confusing fiction with real life. LOL!!! Pretty typical of liberals! 
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Its a shame that everyone wants to compare Trump to Nixon... As pertains to this thread.............I invoked Nixon. Not comparing him to Trump.........but to the fictional character President Bartlett of the series.
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Did you notice that Sam seems to have a mild Bell's Palsy?
The actor Rob Lowe talks out of the side of his mouth. It's been noticed/mentioned for years. No medical affliction involved.
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The more serious question is whether Trump would be able to step up and get it done like President Whitmore in Independence Day. I mean, really, Trump isn't even an ex-aviator jet jockey and probably not intellectually capable of the "Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!" speech. President Whitmore made up that speech on the spot! Just wow, man.
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Did you notice that Sam seems to have a mild Bell's Palsy?
The actor Rob Lowe talks out of the side of his mouth. It's been noticed/mentioned for years. No medical affliction involved. I'm not sure about that. It looks a lot to me like a mild Bell's. Most cases do resolve, but some persist permanently. No big deal, really, just something I noticed.
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Federal manditory minimums always made me paranoid.
If and when I scored a hit or two of beavis-n-butthead blotter, I dropped it asap, no since in getting busted for that in your wallet. Or worse, it going thru the wash machine. Man that always sucked.
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