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Wasn't Ross a farmer in Colorado then? I didn't know he farmed any but I'm fairly certain he was in the cattle business.
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Not to disparage Ross, but I wouldn’t look at what competitive shooters did 30 years ago to validate what I’m doing right now.
It’s comparable to building a race car today around blueprints for a 1985 Mustang.
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I don't have any photos of them, but I know a few guys who have actually killed many things (animals) with a handgun, from positions - or stances, if you will - that would look completely wrong to most of you. At least a couple of them do it amazingly fast and accurate - on moving targets - and they're doing it with run of the mill pistols in major calibers. They do a lot of shooting.
Just sayin'.
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Gracie won UFC 1.
In 1994.
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I don't have any photos of them, but I know a few guys who have actually killed many things (animals) with a handgun, from positions - or stances, if you will - that would look completely wrong to most of you. At least a couple of them do it amazingly fast and accurate - on moving targets - and they're doing it with run of the mill pistols in major calibers. They do a lot of shooting.
Just sayin'. Exactly.
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Gracie won UFC 1.
In 1994. Easily and without a Weight Class and in multiple bouts on the same night.................(grin)
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I took that picture of Ross at Bianchi Cup #3....he didn’t shoot the first one and for the second one he shot a Don Fisher gun with an extended BarSto barrel (he didn’t take the match seriously so he didn’t bother using his Pachmayr—although he wore his “lucky cowboy white shirt” {another story} he started wearing “regular” shirts after he won the world shoot IIRC). There was no movement during this picture—-all Bianchi events are static. Yes, he shot this way all the time. Yes he was a cattle rancher. Yes he shot Pachmayr’s, this one had an extended 6” BarSto—-I don’t know if he shot this at theWorld Shoot or not but he used a standard 5” at the 78, 79 and 80 US Nationals.
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The hand tooled holster and belt he is using is pre Bill Rogers/Safariland, and also no need for speed a Bianchi. The gun has the front site on the slide and is pre Clark tapered cone sight on the comp. bowling pin. Don Fisher was just starting to convert Browning HP to 9 major, and the gamers and martial artists were just starting to argue on the direction of IPSC.
Eugene Berger in Grand Junction, Ron Avery, and Larry Spain were some of the shooters who were faster, but lacked the resources (private airplane) to make all the matches, let alone hunt big game abroad.
Bergers, who started Double Tap bullets, shot from very compressed stances, but didn't stop Eugene from winning the Steel Challenge.
Im pretty sure they would have done just as well today using, STIs SVI and dot sights.
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