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And once they have learned to anticipate the recoil of that light 12 ga, or 300 Wea mag, or 454 Casull. It is such an easy thing to train the flinch out of them.

Ha Ha Ha. You are a HOOT. A real HOOT.

It might be entirely mental for some, but it is quite physical for others. Some of those others may overcome it mentally, to a degree, but some may not.

For real????

Yeah, sounds funny but it works. Friend was here with his son and I was shooting my .500 JRH and he was scared to death of it. I showed it could be shot with one hand and he finally took it. A few shots and he fell in love, then took his dads .454 and broke water bottles at 100 off hand. Once fear is gone about recoil and noise, things come together.
Only trigger control with a small gun helps to start. Most have a fear as you go up so I start big first. John has a .500 S&W but my heavy loads in my .45 Vaquero has more recoil. Nobody but me has shot more then six shots before giving up. Big guns need a healthy frame of steel. Spandex and plastics will make a gun nasty. A .41 Ruger BH with the aluminum frame is far worse then a SBH .44. Even some .357's will be unpleasant. It comes down to the guns weight and some that we shoot from a revolver when chambered in a rifle will turn your shoulder black. Slippery, shiny and pretty grips are not fun either. The revolver should never "roll'. Recoil from small pistols is just the slide weight coming back. Even the ACP is a tiny cartridge but the slide is heavy.
Had fun last week with my neighbor that does not like handguns but he has a .380 on all day. I made him shoot the .500 and he actually hit the target. John and I made one ragged hole with 5 shots. Joe says a handgun is not made for hunting but it is all I use for deer. I can not convince him. My friend Whitworth should show him.
I recently bought a huge collection when a friend died and have a new appreciation of the .380. The old Colt pocket pistol is amazing. But I also got two 1911's, a Dan Wesson and a Colt series 80. Then an AMT in 9mm WW magnum. I can not post a picture as it is too large.

The stupid runs deep in this thread. Well at least I learned how to create flinch.. f^cking brilliant.

Who in the he'll takes 101 shotgun shells to go shooting?

For a new shooter, I see the point...but to classify it as "hard kicking" just isn't accurate in my opinion.

22 lr, then 38’s or 9mm. Recoil causes flinching and bad muscle memory.

Everything is relative.

Well done, sir.

Yes, for real. Believe it or not, some people have physical limitations. We are not all built the same, and we are not all even physically the same as we once were. That is a revelation to you?

Like the highest score ever for qualifying with a service rifle?

Cascade,

You didn't ask for anyone else's opinion but nonetheless I recommend that NEW handgun shooters be taught with a "plain vanilla" K-frame revolvers (for example the Model 10 S&W) & loaded with 148 grain wadcutters, IF they are going to buy (rather than rent or borrow a handgun).

When I was a "range rat" on the staff of a Texas Police Academy 3+ decades ago, we had "school revolvers" that ALL of the beginners were taught to shoot with & by day 3 of "range week" at least 90% of the "rank beginners" qualified. - By Friday noon, ALL of the beginning shooters/"rookie" officers always qualified.
(In every class we had "rookies" who arrived at the academy & who had never even HELD a gun, much less had ever fired a handgun.)

Note: As soon as the rookies (who didn't own or were to be issued a handgun by their department) qualified, there was a line of "new LEOs" who went to the local police supply vendor to buy their own revolver. = Most of those new LEOs chose a 4-inch K-frame S&W in .38SPL as their first duty weapon, in those long-ago days.

yours, tex

Very true. I am 81 and a half now so things have gone to dirt. But I still love my big revolvers and to shoot 5 into one hole at 50 yards from the bench is still joy. Joe shot my .500 and the ripple going down his arm was a thing for Youtube. He downloads every rifle to a piss ant and I ask why he has a .444 with less power then my revolver. He is skinny as a rail but smokes 10 cigarettes when shooting. Even his 30-06 is like a .380. He does nothing but brag about his guns and says "YOU KNOW" a million times.
Carol calls him the "PEST." He calls every morning to tell what he did at his house but he is a shoemaker with no leather or string. His porch is rotting way so he slabs it with wood so I get into it myself, I say "you know " you can't fix rot, you need to replace it all. he put down a few tongue and groove boards and it rained. so I asked him how he would fit more when the wood swelled? He said it would dry. Good stinking luck. I know how crazy he is when he washes his hunting clothes and keeps them in a plastic bag or out on a line and then the first thing he does when out of his stand he lights up. I hate to go with him anywhere because his truck seat is dog hair and he smokes. I can't move the seat back because of the crap behind it so I struggle to get in. The floor under my feet is so full of crap I lose feeling in my feet. He tells me to stop complaining old man but riding in a dumpster is not fun. He paid more for his truck to get wind up windows because he does not like electric windows. Stupid ass that I have to wind the window down when he smokes. Then there is no stop to the gas peddle and he is on the center line all the time.

It is funny how there are the yahoos that recommends dry firing to help a flinch or dropping down to a 22RF to overcome a flinch. It is pure bull hockey. Unless you experience recoil and learn to put up with it you will never learn to endure it.
No recoil, no problem. But that still doesn't resolve the problem. You don't learn tolerance unless you MAKE UP YOUR MIND TO.

OK.

HIGHEST SCORE EVER SHOT!!!!

Tell you what, why don't you try something? Ask for a volunteer, I am sure folks will stand in line for this chance.

Ask for a volunteer to whack you right up beside the head with a baseball bat every time you pull the trigger on your favorite firearm. Pull the trigger 100 times and get whacked in the head 100 times with a baseball bat.

Then get back to us with your tales of no induced flinch.

A flinch is a physiological response to pain associated with a "trigger", pardon the pun. If you experience pain with each pull of the trigger, you will learn to flinch. It is part of being human.

And it takes a long while to reprogram the brain that a trigger pull is not necessarily associated with pain.

Very true. I am 81 and a half now so things have gone to dirt. But I still love my big revolvers and to shoot 5 into one hole at 50 yards from the bench is still joy. Joe shot my .500 and the ripple going down his arm was a thing for Youtube. He downloads every rifle to a piss ant and I ask why he has a .444 with less power then my revolver. He is skinny as a rail but smokes 10 cigarettes when shooting. Even his 30-06 is like a .380. He does nothing but brag about his guns and says "YOU KNOW" a million times.
Carol calls him the "PEST." He calls every morning to tell what he did at his house but he is a shoemaker with no leather or string. His porch is rotting way so he slabs it with wood so I get into it myself, I say "you know " you can't fix rot, you need to replace it all. he put down a few tongue and groove boards and it rained. so I asked him how he would fit more when the wood swelled? He said it would dry. Good stinking luck. I know how crazy he is when he washes his hunting clothes and keeps them in a plastic bag or out on a line and then the first thing he does when out of his stand he lights up. I hate to go with him anywhere because his truck seat is dog hair and he smokes. I can't move the seat back because of the crap behind it so I struggle to get in. The floor under my feet is so full of crap I lose feeling in my feet. He tells me to stop complaining old man but riding in a dumpster is not fun. He paid more for his truck to get wind up windows because he does not like electric windows. Stupid ass that I have to wind the window down when he smokes. Then there is no stop to the gas peddle and he is on the center line all the time.