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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Didn't even have to bring up cock or somebody's family to explain my position. Hard to believe....


Well said...

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Originally Posted by jlboykin
I understand what you’re saying Jack. I’m not for making concessions either, but this seems like a nonevent from my point of view. There are far bigger issues than this event facing us at the moment and I don’t think it is going to get better any time soon.

Where do you live? I’m curious to know more about the land grab. Feds tried to take property along the red river in TX recently. Didn’t work out for them here, but I’m sure they will try again.



Shenandoah national park. Lots of information out there. Both sides of my family have lived in the mountains to the west of the valley since the 1700's. There's a lot of ingrained distrust of the federal govt for a multitude of transgressions. At this point, it's almost a part of who we are.
https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/eminentdomain-origin-shenandoah-national-park/



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I’m still scratching my head about why anyone cares about this. If someone killed a relative of mine with a gun, I’d rather it be destroyed than resold to someone else.


They don't sell evidence guns.

The cops confiscate guns constantly, and you have to go to the police station and fill out a form to get them back. If no one gets them back they are traded to a gun dealer for a block of new cop guns. The used guns are then sold across state lines to some other area. Then they are sold to the public through an FFL. I have bought lots of these guns.


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by jlboykin
I understand what you’re saying Jack. I’m not for making concessions either, but this seems like a nonevent from my point of view. There are far bigger issues than this event facing us at the moment and I don’t think it is going to get better any time soon.

Where do you live? I’m curious to know more about the land grab. Feds tried to take property along the red river in TX recently. Didn’t work out for them here, but I’m sure they will try again.



Shenandoah national park. Lots of information out there. Both sides of my family have lived in the mountains to the west of the valley since the 1700's. There's a lot of ingrained distrust of the federal govt for a multitude of transgressions. At this point, it's almost a part of who we are.
https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/eminentdomain-origin-shenandoah-national-park/


Criminal overreaching—what a raw deal.


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Coal companies, timber companies, federal govt., Revenuers...you name it, pretty much any outsider that comes in making promises has [bleep] over, stolen and taken advantage of the locals in most of Appalachia. Most of the folks that settled the area fled here from countries where they were being treated the same way, so like I said before, being from this area, we're a little more hypersensitive to any situation where someone is trying to strip us of liberties.

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The city police may have screwed Benchmade over a helpful neighbor favor, but...

Will people remember in 2 years and buy the knives anyways.

Are people still buying Nike shoes?



I won't and I'll be a reminder at every chance.



Lest we forget you and that big stupid buddy of yours, rifle in vice, and a string hooked to the trigger, destroying a (gun).... But that's ok you fuucking cull piece of shiit......


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Coal companies, timber companies, federal govt., Revenuers...you name it, pretty much any outsider that comes in making promises has [bleep] over, stolen and taken advantage of the locals in most of Appalachia. Most of the folks that settled the area fled here from countries where they were being treated the same way, so like I said before, being from this area, we're a little more hypersensitive to any situation where someone is trying to strip us of liberties.


Same thing happening here with oil and gas companies using eminent domain.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Humdinger should move over to the AR subforum and tell everybody there that all ARs are created equal because they have the same parts.



I'm sure there are many great AR parts suppliers that suggest they make parts to Mill spec and use Mill spec quality programs, but if you're maker and offer a generous warranty for a high priced product to cover future warranty claims, does that make you "high quality"?

hmmm...









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Originally Posted by jlboykin
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Coal companies, timber companies, federal govt., Revenuers...you name it, pretty much any outsider that comes in making promises has [bleep] over, stolen and taken advantage of the locals in most of Appalachia. Most of the folks that settled the area fled here from countries where they were being treated the same way, so like I said before, being from this area, we're a little more hypersensitive to any situation where someone is trying to strip us of liberties.


Same thing happening here with oil and gas companies using eminent domain.


maybe 40 years ago. Pipelines are paying out more to keep you from joining the protesters.


Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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A gun that has had the serial number removed would never be resold by any LE agency for any reason. Removing the serial number is against the law. Way it is MB


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
A gun that has had the serial number removed would never be resold by any LE agency for any reason. Removing the serial number is against the law. Way it is MB


+1


Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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unfortunate, bc i like their bugout knives a lot.


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Originally Posted by humdinger
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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Coal companies, timber companies, federal govt., Revenuers...you name it, pretty much any outsider that comes in making promises has [bleep] over, stolen and taken advantage of the locals in most of Appalachia. Most of the folks that settled the area fled here from countries where they were being treated the same way, so like I said before, being from this area, we're a little more hypersensitive to any situation where someone is trying to strip us of liberties.


Same thing happening here with oil and gas companies using eminent domain.


maybe 40 years ago. Pipelines are paying out more to keep you from joining the protesters.


No, it’s happening now. They just use midstream companies instead of doing it themselves. Use of eminent domain is off the charts right now.

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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
A gun that has had the serial number removed would never be resold by any LE agency for any reason. Removing the serial number is against the law. Way it is MB


Exactly, they are destroyed instead.

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Coal companies, timber companies, federal govt., Revenuers...you name it, pretty much any outsider that comes in making promises has [bleep] over, stolen and taken advantage of the locals in most of Appalachia. Most of the folks that settled the area fled here from countries where they were being treated the same way, so like I said before, being from this area, we're a little more hypersensitive to any situation where someone is trying to strip us of liberties.


Same thing happening here with oil and gas companies using eminent domain.


maybe 40 years ago. Pipelines are paying out more to keep you from joining the protesters.


No, it’s happening now. They just use midstream companies instead of doing it themselves. Use of eminent domain is off the charts right now.


Everytime they add a new pipeline through my place, the payout decimal place moves over one place in the nice direction.

If you're upset about it... protest.

The last line through my place got stopped by "honor the earth" group.

The trick is you can't stop them just because you're a whiner, you need to get an environmental cause behind you to get support and funding.

You can do it.


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The payouts down here are good, I’m not complaining about that. Most lines are now between $400-$600/rod.

I’m a landowner and in pipeline construction, so I’m well versed in what is going on. The problem is that any common carrier can claim eminent domain and put a line in. It goes before a special commission that usually makes sure the payout is in line, but you’re forced to use their surface agreement (which are usually terrible). Same thing happens with common carrier power transmission

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Originally Posted by jlboykin
The payouts down here are good, I’m not complaining about that. Most lines are now between $400-$600/rod.

I’m a landowner and in pipeline construction, so I’m well versed in what is going on. The problem is that any common carrier can claim eminent domain and put a line in. It goes before a special commission that usually makes sure the payout is in line, but you’re forced to use their surface agreement (which are usually terrible). Same thing happens with common carrier power transmission



Thats a good payout. I'm not not sure whats all entailed in a "surface agreement". I have to allow them access about once a year to do repairs and they get yelled at to shut the gates if they let my cattle lose.

You're on the loosing end no matter what.

You're in a state with no income state tax, the utilities companies probably fund the government, and your governor is republican and probably backs business.

So who owns the Texas government? the companies that pay them

You're screwed.


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by jlboykin
I understand what you’re saying Jack. I’m not for making concessions either, but this seems like a nonevent from my point of view. There are far bigger issues than this event facing us at the moment and I don’t think it is going to get better any time soon.

Where do you live? I’m curious to know more about the land grab. Feds tried to take property along the red river in TX recently. Didn’t work out for them here, but I’m sure they will try again.



Shenandoah national park. Lots of information out there. Both sides of my family have lived in the mountains to the west of the valley since the 1700's. There's a lot of ingrained distrust of the federal govt for a multitude of transgressions. At this point, it's almost a part of who we are.
https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/eminentdomain-origin-shenandoah-national-park/

Who lived there before the Europeans invaded and displaced them?

Time goes by, but the same things keep on happening.

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yea... I own land in reservation country and they have been paid out many times. The only reason they don't press the property rights harder is they dont want to piss off the casino patrons.


Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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