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And there I find your interpretation of scripture in error.

For a Catholic worshiping a pope or anyone/thing except God, would be heresy. They would no longer be Catholic. Don't know why that's so hard to get across.

So we believe that the Holy Spirit metaphorically whispers in the ear of the pope on certain doctrinal matters. Protestants, at least some of them, believes He whispers in the ear of everyone that picks up a Bible. Others believe He whispers in the ear of their favorite pastor, but not others.

Then there's the Bible, His word. How do you know the people who put it on parchment got it right? Maybe the Holy Spirit whispered in their ears?

With all this whisperin going on why is it so hard to conceive of the pope being included? Just because you don't like his politics?

First thst's not what he said. Second, he is entitled to his opinion no matter how stupid it is, just like everyone else.

So thats how you justify him not following scripture? Maybe the Bible is wrong and we need to go by what the pope said God whispered in his ear?
YGBSM.

So then you follow someone who believes or acts contrary to His written word and yet you still think you arent rejecting His Word for that of a mortal man? Youre following (worshipping) the mortal, not God.

God said the Bible is His holy word. He gave it to us as our instruction for life on earth and everlasting life.

Can you not understand scripture?

"There are none good" "There is none who do good". Is HE a liar and the pope truth?

Can you not mentally comprehend His words og warning here:

Matt24:2 take heed that no MAN decieve you.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before."- Matthew 24:24,25.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you."- 2 Peter 2:2. These individuals arise among the professed Christians, he is not some blasphemous atheist ...

I submit He was right, men will be blinded by satan who comes in Gods name.

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 2Cor 4:4.

You have been seduced into worshipping a man in a cult which uses satan as its member getter.

May God bless you as your needs may be and may He have mercy on your soul. Amen

So I worship a man, Jesus, in a cult started by Jesus himself? I'm jiggy with that.

Only he proffess' to be the "infallible" leader, so he is not simply uttering an inane opinion.

That Sob is dangerous.

Christian faith is not up for debate, the nitwit that claims to be God's rep on Earth is.

This!

For the zillionth and last time, certain of the pope' teachings on doctrine are considered infallible and nothing else. Not his political opinions or opinion on the price of tea. And here's a secret,not his picks at the dog track either. He's never won a trifecta.

From what i have seen he couldn't win an argument.

Ricky, i think you are more scripturally knowledgeable and more capable of doing that that than myself.

All i could offer is read the Bible and pray for guidance and dont let someone else distract you with their idea or fallible
interpretation.

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Would have been quicker to say, "I don't know", because truly I don't know what would be worse than having a church, any church, be led by the antichrist.

Go ahead, torture Matt. 16:18 all you want, I'll take the plain reading.

And John 21:15-17

And before the sun had came up, denied knowing The Lord 3 times.

Amen. Spot on, JS.

The plain reading is that it is the good confession itself and not the confessor.

Christ is and has always been the only man capable of being the foundation upon which is built a big-C Church... or little-c, for that matter...

To base the power of a mortal man, his infallibility on any issue, his ability to intervene with God on your behalf, and to elevate himself as King of the Vatican, control billions of dollars based on these assumed extra powers granted by God on the two scriptures quoted is insane. Smoke and mirrors. Dance around the cult all you wish. The pope is undeserving of worship. And crowds rushing the coach to kiss his ring is worship of the world, not of God. To kiss the ring of a priest, referring to him as father, to confess sins to a mortal man, to depend on the prayers of others to make you right with God, none of this is Biblical..To a pope or his underlings infallible in any way is a total absurdity. Accepting this false worship and false divinity is heresy on the part of catholic leadership.

As far as whether or not I accept the infallibility of the Bible? I accept the infallibility of the one and only Holy Father and he is not a pope. He is the Master of the universe and dictated a record of his dedication to his children, His acts of support in what is our Old Testament, and His INFALLIBILITY in guiding the record of Jesus Christ in our New Testament.. There is nothing in either part of our Bible granting Peter the devine inspiration and divine support of God to build the catholic church.

We all as Believers are instructed in prayerful support of one another, and to live our lives in pursuit of righteousness, to be effective in our prayerful petitions to God in prayer. In the book of James:


James 5:14-16 King James Version (KJV)

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

This removes all doubt prayer matters. But not prayers of the self appointed infallibles. Instead, the prayers of those seeking righteousness. The pope, any pope past, present, future, has no more influence wtih God than the most humble among us. And I personally am led to believe he is the pharasee of the Christian world. Proud in title, intentionally obvious in his actions, and hiding more than any but God will ever know.

And then there is the issue of sexual conduct within the catholic hierarchy. The attraction of such an institution that prohibits the natural God designed and blessed relationship between man and woman, based on past and present actions by those in authority is an incredible attraction to the very group of males God found to be an abomination. The management plan of the catholic organition is perfectly designed for those males who deny the Godly attraction of man for woman and woman for man. Instead it encourages those who choose to live according to what is God's abomination. This is a known way of life among those who share it under the pretense of serving God. There will be no forgiveness. It is openly tolerated. That alone is enough to show not only is the pope, the cardinals, the bishops and the priests part and parcel of this abomination to God, but enough to show the organization in total operates outside the direction of God. May the Holy Spirit bring to you the wisdom of God and the love of Jesus to make the truth believable.

That's about enough of me on this. I'll leave it to others here on out.

You are blessed to be able to compose thatand will be blessed for standing up for Him and Truth. It was a blessing to get to read it and efw also.

Nitehawk has presented a heroic effort, if not a scripturally sound one, for the pope. I fear he will hear the Lord ask him why havent you done as much for me.

Was a nice post but so factually wrong on Catholic doctrine I wouldn't know where to begin. The argument is fine but get your facts straight. I wasn't trying to defend the idea of a pope, lots of people can do it better, so much as to point out those mistakes. Believe what you will, but base your belief on accurate information. Not on myth fed to you by someone trying to convince you to follow them. (My favorite is that Catholics worship statues, always gives me a laugh.)

It's all out there, there are no Catholic secrets.

I have no problem with a denomination of Christianity having a religious hierarchy and pampered leadership...I have a real problem when that arsehole attempts to interfere with the way I live my life...it seems every time this çunt opens his mouth he wants me and mine to give something up so that some other turd can have more.

Here is a suggestion, if the prick wants others to have more then how about he and his ilk do with less and keep their fingers out of what is mine.

Bingo...........That's the way I see it to. I do not believe that when you commit a sin that a man can tell you to say three Hail Mary's, and you will be forgiven of that sin. There is only one way you are forgiven of your sins, and it ain't through a Pope or a priest.