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Not sure if folks think I am deflake with a different account or he is me with a different account, but I only have one account and would not bother wasting my time juggling two accounts just to intellectually accost you bozos.

we all know that god & especially his followers support the concept of yoga pants.

otherwise, he'd never have allowed their invention. he's meticulous about that.

but we all know that when the number of earthquakes increase, it's not good.

i believe jaguar man in his honesty is trying to tell us something, but what?

Knowing anything at all on the subject is much more than you or your minions know, quite obviously.

Paul
Romans 1
No excuse

I'll take you here.....

crack open a cold beer.....we leave......

then you tell me there is no God.....

Rocky-, you raise “the problem with evil,” probably the most common for cynicism regarding the God of Christianity. It’s a great enough problem that many have written about it, including CS Lewis and more recently Tim Keller. It’s undoubtedly a hard knot to cut through.

Wager (no, not Pascal’s) to all posters taking the opposing view here and who kept it pretty civil: read through the Bible beginning with John in the next six months. I would recommend Biblehub.com (free) and you can read any one of about 20 commentaries in parallel with any scripture. Then when you get in my neck of the woods, I will host. Regardless of stripe. ‘Course I would do that anyway. 🙂

Mt good friend Antelope Sniper hasn’t checked in here yet, but I imagine he will shortly. 😉

Jeezus ain't real.

Hint...............

Learning about God is not the same as creating a god. For one there are things I would have done differently. Probably wrongly but differently.

#2 is a little fatuous. So maybe He made the rules and set things in motion? Then there are all the physical constants that came out of the big bang just right. Like the universal gravitational constant that controls the expansion of the universe. Of course you could say that's a statistical probability. But th odds of getting it just right by chance approach infinity. And you know what that means. No, doesn't prove anything but you have to confront the matter.

Heaven is logically not comprehensible beyond it's the plac to be. So who knows? Personally , like Will Rogers, I'm more concerned with where dogs go than aliens.

Heaven is logically not comprehensible beyond it's the plac to be. So who knows? Personally , like Will Rogers, I'm more concerned with where dogs go than aliens. [/quote]

in all likelihood the dogs, humans, and extraterrestrials aren't all that different if in fact we all came from the big bang.

there'd be that singularity, that commonality, that duality.

what was, and what wasn't.

what is, and what isn't.

"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse."

That pretty much defines "innate". No man has any excuse not to accept that there is God.

And like it or not, every man will give an account for what he believes and what he has done. That will be a pitiful day for a very great many who have no faith in Jesus. But a very wonderful day for those of us who believe, whose faults/sins are removed by Him as far as east is from west.

not to create dissonance amongst the rank & file, but we are inmates.

we work & pay taxes or not.

we worship whatever.

or no worship.

freedom?

Sounds a lot like .................. Flave

well sort of, but not for certain.

i'm eating a bit of carnista, from kroger.

with cheese, and a bit of lettuce greens.

e.coli, salmonella, and listeria, etc. are not good.

..i've heard that lyme disease is on the increase?

Learning about god is like learning about Santa. Santa knows when you've been bad or good, brings us gifts, is seemingly immortal, performs miracles, and is taught to children as real. Sounds a whole lot like god, eh? Santa is a construct, a manufactured entity in whom some people believe deeply because their parents told them to believe in him. So is god.

Your Bible is a well-written book, for sure. But it is nothing more than a collection of oral stories and myths - and not a complete one at that because large parts of it were voted out by church rulers. None of it was written down at all until about the year 600, six centuries after this Jesus guy was alleged to have been around and many more centuries after the earliest tales it contains. You know how oral stories change and get embellished when they are retold over and over? That's true of biblical stories, too. Then it was imperfectly translated into language after language, revised, edited, and issued in several versions. Every word literally true? Ha! Use the Bible to prove the truth of god and then use "it's the word of god" to prove the truth of the Bible? That's the worst kind of circular logic.

tikkanut, my friend, I'd be delighted to share a beer and our Utah scenery with you any time. However, we can't say it's there because of a god. It's there - and that's all we can say.

It's called free will which God gave to everybody. Can any of you prove that there is not a God?

Note the astounding arrogance of the religious infected. We, the filthy unbelievers, can NOT lead a moral life, we can't possibly love our fellow man, we can NOT adhere to the golden rule, we can't possibly be compassionate citizens of this earthly orb. They proselytize at our very doorstep, peddling their arrogance of superior knowledge. The believers must truly be superior beings. They tell us this, shouted from the rooftops, ad nauseum.

The golden rule exist even today.

Same ole tired drivel....

Juvenile insults..... TX / Texans suck...... Religion sucks.... blah blah blah
Next he’ll tell us the Bears are great & Mike Ditka is god.
April Fools day again or Groundhog Day ?

I believe that Scripture provides the answers we need to live a life of faith in God through the finished work of Christ and by the power of the Holy Spirit. That’s all it’s for.

It doesn’t address aliens but I suppose someday by the grace of God I’ll find out.

As for your middle paragraph you’ve proven your innate knowledge of God therein. You called upon transcendent, objective right & wrong there. If everything “just is” there can be no such standard; just what is. One cannot logically jump from what is to what ought to be without that objective a-priori standard which undergirds all existence.

Yes.

You are super bright.