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All Aquinas did was use intellect and logic to get to a place where he admitted that we do not, and cannot know, and he called that, God - all anyone can do is believe, if they want to.

The point being made, is that God makes himself known to every man without communication with other men.

The fact that every civilization holds a belief in some god is used as substantive evidence toward that claim.

I hold that it must be otherwise, considering the plethora of gods known around the world. A single, all knowing, all powerful God could not possibly be that inept at making himself known.

Nobody wakes up at six years old and thinks ‘Wow, I need to start paying homage to God.’

It is taught. Therefore it is not innate.

The only thing that may be considered innate is our desire to live forever and achieve power and control. That aspect of God and religion enables that. But it still has to be introduced. It is not innate.

so much of our god issues are related to our human consciousness. the crocodiles in the river don't have this dilemma to deal with.

and it's especially tied to our ego's. nobody wants to die, but everybody wants to go to heaven. not a bad idea really.

it keeps one safe, and living on into the future although they've dropped the biological side of things (i assume).

thus enter god of various kinds, types and sorts from throughout the ages from every independent group.

in no way does having a majority of people holding to a single belief make that belief anymore true.

there actually might be only one person high on a mountain that holds the only true belief.

but he's not talking with us lowly commoners. he's got better things to think & do.

a weakness is that we "need" to worship a god that allows us to control things.

"control" now there's a concept a true god can sink his teeth in with support.

No sane person wants to die, but that does not mean we can not accept the inevitable.

The point being made is that there is an innate sense of some god which is in all of us. The fact that every civilization has religious rites and practices is indeed substantive evidence of that fact.

Seems like maybe you then narrowed things down to your conception of a specific god idea to disqualify the evidence.

That’s called confirmation bias.

Not all civilizations endorse the idea of a non-earth dwelling god.

That’s a lie.

That isn’t true you’re correct but it’s not what I said either...

The God Idea comes at us from both the Outside- who then made all this?- and from the inside, when we first experience love... and guilt.

God is so much a part of us that He must be rationalized away if we are to become unbelievers..... that’s not our natural state. An intrinsic part of us wants to believe that Someone, or Something is in control . It’s as if we have an internal throne that demands an occupant.

If we don’t develop some concept of God, we install our Self on that throne. For practical applications, Self is synonymous with Satan.

Romans 1:20

20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

according to the geneologists, neanderthal man once roamed europe and russia (northern asia).

they say according to their research of dna spirals, that the average/typical, not from africa, human contains about 2 percent neanderthal dna.

since evidence suggests that they buried their dead, i'm of the opinion that they had beliefs of one kind or another.

whichever god, or process that allowed homo sapiens to take over the urth, the neanderthal were ruled out as unworthy.

A rather explicit -categorical statement above^



now the backtrack, your beliefs still matter / are still important.

No wonder the Book refers to them as scatterbrain sheep,
when they try to think or reason for themselves and speak for God ,they just make further fools of themselves.

(James 1:8)
" A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways"

Nobody with any sense whatsoever would consult sheep for direction or advice or what
members of the flock like TF49 call the TRUTH,
...hence why the good shepherd is on constant standby
to guide the helpless halfwits in every single aspect of their life.

Christianity for millennia has been polluted with crack pot uppity sheep who have the delusion
that they are a guiding light with compulsion to deliver and educate the lesser others with their
own superior versions of the 'truth'.




LOL...those who cannot even recall what they themselves said just a couple weeks ago,

should not be trying to guide people on what some mysterious God allegedly said thousands of yrs ago.

chances are the persons that transferred Gods words into a Book had as terrible and unreliable
memory- recollection as you do.

Yep, cause what you just said, isnt really so. Now, i will accept as scripture has said, there is no Christ or life for you after your run here is done.

Curiosity and the desire for explanations and/or answers is innate. From this innate drive for understanding flows both religion and science.

Nope, don’t recall calling anyone a dick. I do however remember referring to you .... let’s see, what was it... I think it was a “DK kid” or something like that.

You missed the clue but since you bring it up.... it was a referral to the Dunning-Krueger syndrome.

Look it up....

That we cannot "know" a transcendent being, less restricted than we are, does not mean we cannot know of their existence or some of their properties through our intellect, which itself is as transcendent faculty. And it's the unrestricted, uncaused being of which logically there can be only one, we would call "god."

As I hinted, I believe there can be no proof if you follow the philosophy of Ethics. Kinda suspect that's what Aquinas ran up against.

Well, i guess it is for normal people.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/po...s-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html

Good articles, Jag. Everyone who is honest know that the God concept is innate in people. But the God haters can't live with that and I'm about to the place I can't live with them, too.

Duh. There are five Transcendental Desires that were recognized around 400 BC by Plato and Aristotle. These are Perfect and unconditional Truth, Perfect and unconditional Love, Perfect and unconditional Justice (Goodness), Perfect and unconditional Beauty, Perfect and unconditional Being (Home). Consider these innate desires, intrinsic with our being. Now what might we call one who perfectly embodies these virtues? An uncaused, unrestricted being? God?

Just something to ponder.