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I forgot all the gory details...
But when loopie fell out with precision reticle I started buying swfa.
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.
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You might as well have kicked someones cat
There is nothing wrong with Leupold, yes there has been some reported issues, but consider how much of the market they have.
NF is the 6.5 Creed of the optics world. NF has their place among the others, it's just not everyone's cup of tea. I like them, have a couple but they are heavy and have no place on a trim hunting rifle. I agree....Nightforce optics are great (and you pay for this quality) but their hefty weight disqualifies them in My book for the light/trim hunting rifles I prize, plus a 30mm tube scope mounted on a slim, trim rifle looks like a monkey [bleep] a football 😁.....Hb,
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So, it looks like we've put this to bed then?
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Hmm.
Well, no, not until every Campfire member who's ever owned a Leupold votes....
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John Steinbeck
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I used to own nothing but Leupolds, currently I own none. Do I really need to.explain w hy? I wont own another Leupold until an announcement is made that they redesigned the erector system.....period!
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All my 13 Leupolds have seen collective use and occasional abuse - mainly in Alaska. So far no issues. Anything mechanical can break at any given time. Evidently mine are old enough to predate whatever the current problem is. I am not a turret twister. I zero the big game stuff to 250 and know my holds to 400.
My "clicks" are written on a piece of masking tape placed on the scope tube. I'd rather test my stalking skills than my sniper skills. No offense to technology, nor to those who embrace it, but this is my guideline.
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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Wait......wait! I get to vote! I have never had a Leupold fail to hold zero. I’ve had Vari X and VXs and FXs and they all worked for what I used them for.........a sight! I like them! Leupold is all I own, but.........I’m not a turret twister. If I was I might feel differently.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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I can accept the Leupold mechanics for what they are. But the wildly inaccurate descriptions and pictures of their reticles is frustrating.... How hard is it to have accurate marketing?
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NF is the 6.5 Creed of the optics world. NF has their place among the others, it's just not everyone's cup of tea. I like them, have a couple but they are heavy and have no place on a trim hunting rifle.
Wow. I have a NF on my Creed. Otherwise, not knowing any better, I could be shooting a .270 wearing a Leupold. Good thing I’m here on the Fire. DF Nothing wrong with either or a Montana... ![[Linked Image]](https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/aa437/boxhead61/IMG_0929%201_zpsrdvjjuqs.jpg)
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Lost confidence in Leupold holding zero and adjusting to POI. Sent them in and they came back with same issues. Have several more fixed 6 x Leupolds that so far still work. I tend to swap scopes and problem shows up trying to sight them in.
No one will believe it till it happens to them though!
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I forgot all the gory details...
But when loopie fell out with precision reticle I started buying swfa. Dick died...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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I currently have about a dozen scoped rifles from 204 Ruger to 9.3x62. I have more Leupold than anything else, but also use Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski, Kahles, Trijicon, Schmidt-Bender and Nightforce.
The only "failure" that I ever had was the illumination on the Trijicon. The others have never failed. I guess I just like to experiment.
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Hmm.
Well, no, not until every Campfire member who's ever owned a Leupold votes.... LOL- this is going to be a long, long thread..... I better stock up on popcorn.... For the record, I have Leupolds, B&L Elite and Bushnell Elite, Burris, Weaver, and an oddball or two. Just too cheap to spend the dollars on Nightforce just to see what the excitement is all about. Had about the same amount of problems with each of them and sent a few of each back for repair/replacement- mainly due to the fact I'm a klutz and I'm pretty hard on hardware at times- but not when it counts....  Feel free to carry on as usual..... Bob
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People that have problems with leupold imagined the problems
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Mule deer , your opinion on the current state of Leupold ?
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One of the unsung features of a Nightforce is its ability to be used as a billy club if needed. They managed to manufacture a lot of heft into those suckers! I've had numerous Leupolds and they have worked without issue, the CDS-equipped ones working just fine on targets out to 500 yards. But....I kept hearing about Leupold's failings and how robust and dependable Nightforce is. So I bought one, an SHV. Love it. Then an NXS 2.5-10X42. When it arrived, I unboxed it (sorry, no 5-minute youtube video), and was looking through it when I noticed a black speck that I eventually determined to be on the inside of the objective lense. I had also recently received a copy of JB's excellent Gun Gack II. Holding the NXS by the ocular, I whacked Mr. Barsness's book somewhat forcefully with my brand-spanking-new Nightforce. The speck is gone and the Nightforce has went on to participate in some deer and coyote killings. I would have had to think about whacking my VX-5HD like that..... Funny story (incident)!.
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People that have problems with Vortex leupold imagined the problems Fixt it for ya...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Mule deer , your opinion on the current state of Leupold ? I bet he'll say "Oregon."
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I have 25+ Leupolds...3-4 not as yet mounted, including 2 NIB LPS. I bought 4 NIB LPS years ago. Have also bought the old Gilmore Red Dots.
Most of the Leupolds came on rifles or scoped pistols that I acquired.
I would most likely NOT buy a new Leupold .....for the money I can find a good used Diavari or , my first choice, used Kahles.
I have sent a couple Leupolds back for repair. 1 they sent me a very nice letter ....that said the scope met their specs.
Leupold has become a mass merchandiser ....and in the process have lost a bit quality.
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