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The events were so out of the victim's view of what's possible that he couldn't believe it was actually happening, so essentially did nothing to preserve his own life.



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Could be a gang initiation. People do things that make sense to them at the time. In other words, the perp HAD a reason.


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Why didn't the guy in the white car back over him?


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Originally Posted by smarquez
Why didn't the guy in the white car back over him?

That's what I was thinking. Likely too cowardly, fearing he'd turn his gun on him if he didn't immediately incapacitate him.

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The victim had ZERO situational awareness. None at all.

By the time alarm bells were ringing in his head, it was too late.

I think a large percentage of people today go through life like that.


There's no accounting for the motive the killer had. Normal people cannot compute "crazy"... They have to give it a reason.

It may have been nothing more than the guy wanting to know what it feels like to kill someone. Motives a lot of times don't fit into a handy bin. Sometimes only the perp knows why... Or he may not even know himself.


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Originally Posted by smarquez
Why didn't the guy in the white car back over him?

Ever look around when sitting at a red light - see how UNAWARE the vast majority of people are ?

Lots of young people with anger issues , sad about the the innocent victim , as stated he just went into shock disbelief as to what was happening .
People like the shooter hugely deserve to be tortured for many years .


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The victim had ZERO situational awareness. None at all.

By the time alarm bells were ringing in his head, it was too late.

I think a large percentage of people today go through life like that.


There's no accounting for the motive the killer had. Normal people cannot compute "crazy"... They have to give it a reason.

It may have been nothing more than the guy wanting to know what it feels like to kill someone. Motives a lot of times don't fit into a handy bin. Sometimes only the perp knows why... Or he may not even know himself.

Yep.

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9 months ago ...what became of this ?


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Originally Posted by atvalaska
9 months ago ...what became of this ?

He was arrested and charged.

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https://kfor.com/2018/09/17/watch-witness-risks-life-to-stop-suspect-in-fatal-el-reno-shooting

I to am surprised nobody was carrying a handgun to stop this murder. There is a good chance the driver of the dark pickup, who attempted to spin the perp's car around, was armed.


El Reno man killed Friday in shooting

By Ray Dyer | September 19, 2018

The man suspected of killing Ryan Randall Johnson on Friday evening, fired multiple times, several rounds from close range, police said.

Zachary Khea Huber, 25, is being held in the El Reno municipal jail. Information will be presented to the Canadian County District Attorney for consideration of formal charges.

El Reno police arrested Huber just after midnight Saturday morning after tracking him to a local residence. Police Chief Ken Brown said Huber was arrested at the home of a relative. The arrest was made without incident.

Police would not release a motive for the shooting, but social media discussion suggested the pair may have been involved in an earlier altercation.

“There’s a lot going on on social media,” Brown said.

Police had originally listed Huber’s birth date as being in 1983, but that was corrected Monday morning to 1993. He apparently turned 25 on Aug. 8.

Johnson was 37 years old, police said.

The shooting happened outside Ruddie’s Quick Stop, 1524 W. Elm, just before 7 p.m. Johnson was taken by ambulance to Mercy El Reno Hospital where he died.

Survellience cameras recorded the shooting. Police released a photo showing a man, presumed to be Huber, standing behind a vehicle at the gas pumps and aiming a semi-automatic handgun in the direction of the store.

Brown said it is believed the shooter fired twice at Johnson, knocking him to the ground before continuing to fire at closer range. Johnson was shot “multiple times,” police said.

Brown said as “many as three people” tried to intervene “in some form or fashion” to assist Johnson. One witness to the shooting reportedly jumped on the hood of Huber’s vehicle in an effort to stop him. The man was reportedly thrown off the vehicle and into the middle of Elm Street. He was not believed to be seriously injured.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The victim had ZERO situational awareness. None at all.

By the time alarm bells were ringing in his head, it was too late.

I think a large percentage of people today go through life like that.


Most have no idea what could be waiting for them every morning they go out the front door.


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Guy jumping on the hood was about a genius.
He musta wanted to die too

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Could be a gang initiation. People do things that make sense to them at the time. In other words, the perp HAD a reason.


Drug deal gone bad, or revenge for a tryst could also be the reason. Or mistaken identity.


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Probably a road rage incident earlier between the two. As much as we want to flick dumb drivers off, blow horns, etc....we just don't know what it might escalate to these days.

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The article said a lot was happening on social media. Looks like one of them unfriended the other.


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More evidence that the survival instinct is slowly being bred out of humans.

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Originally Posted by chesterwy
More evidence that the survival instinct is slowly being bred out of humans.

"Damn! You shot me! What the hell, dude??"

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If I had been in the silver truck that mf'r would be ground meat!


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Originally Posted by smarquez
Why didn't the guy in the white car back over him?

Why would anyone interfere with an undercover agent taking down a bad guy that had just killed four innocent people in a farm house?.....

No, that's Not what it turned out to be, but did anyone other than the victim and the perp have ANY inclination as to what was going on?.. and the victim could be excluded from that knowledge too....
that stuffs just crazy

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