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Many thanks for the tips and information guys. I am now on the hunt for a bargain on some 225 grain Partitions. Are factory seconds worth a look? I read once the 210 grain .338 Partitions were made tougher then the 250's because they were being driven faster, ya got me. Just wondering if the same is true for .35 caliber bullets? I am thinking 225 grains is about ideal for Alaska for hunting with a .356 Win. case. I ordered the 250 grain Kodiaks for up close and personal use.
Trying to decide on a powder and it looks like WW 748 and Varaget are good Choices.
Four of my friends use the 225 grain Accubond out of their .35 Whelen and are convinced it is the best Alaskan big game round. One of their sons used the 200 grain Speer Flat Nose out of his .358 Norma Mag. and said lung shot moose did not travel far, no kidding.
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The factory seconds are definitely worth a look. I shoot them in several calibers. They are only seconds due to some cosmetic issue.
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1Akshooter,
Here is what Nosler has told me about the construction of various Partitions:
They ALL feature the same softer lead alloy in the front core, to insure expansion.
The rear alloy is SOMETIMES tweaked a little, whether for accuracy or penetration reasons. But in general it has at least twice the antimony of the front core.
The biggie in retained bullet weight is the placement of the partition. In most it's placed so the bullet retains about 65%, depending on whether any of the core is retained. The larger-caliber, heavier Partitions are designed to retain at least 75% of their weight even IF they lose the front core. This has been proven many times in my experience, in both test media, and a lot of big game up to 1500 pounds or so.
My experience with the 225 .35 Partition, both in sectioning and shooting media and game, is it's designed to retain around 65% of its weight. This has proven to result in sufficient penetration in moderate-velocity .35 caliber cartridges like the .358 Winchester. The recovered bulleys have all been on angling shots that encountered shoulder bone.
Also have some experience (personally and from guys I trust) with various cup-and-core bullets in the .358 Winchester, and while they generally work very well, a good friend (who's also a long-time guide) had a 250 Hot-Cor come apart on an angling shot on a cow elk. He'd killed a number of elk with the same load before, but that time he had to chase the elk around quite a bit before putting in a finisher.
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Thanks for the info Mule Deer. I ran 250 grain Partitions at around 2,700 fps mv out of a .338 Winny for about 12 years. For sure they were excellent killers on moose, caribou and bears. I think I recovered four bullets as most of my shots were under 100 yards and passed through the lungs. Of the four recovered bullets, none of them weighed over 180 grains. Most of the moose were under 1,500 lbs. Them little ones are harder to hit and as you know, they all look the same on the dinner plate.
Bullets can be hard to figure some times, just as my 94 year old Uncle Ed told me. Him and two other guys from the 82nd Airborne were in a fox hole during the Battle of the Bulge. All the of them caught around in the head from a German machine gun and the two other guys died quickly. The bullet that hit Ed in the helmet veered of and rattled around in his helmet and swelled his head all up. He said he had the worst head ache for days and it took a week or so for the swelling to go down. Eventually he lost the eye on that side of his head, but he never left the front lines and he said some guys were worse off then him and kept fighting.
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^^^^^^^ This evening, I'm raising a glass to 1Akshooter's Uncle Ed! I humbly suggest everyone who reads this do likewise. I don't know either of these men, but Uncle Ed earns some respect!
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Many thanks for the tips and information guys. I am now on the hunt for a bargain on some 225 grain Partitions. Are factory seconds worth a look? I read once the 210 grain .338 Partitions were made tougher then the 250's because they were being driven faster, ya got me. Just wondering if the same is true for .35 caliber bullets? I am thinking 225 grains is about ideal for Alaska for hunting with a .356 Win. case. I ordered the 250 grain Kodiaks for up close and personal use.
Trying to decide on a powder and it looks like WW 748 and Varaget are good Choices.
I've bought a ton of the factory seconds/overruns from SPS. The only difference I've seen are maybe a cannelure or different colored tip in the BT's. Great bullets at a great price. I've been keeping an eye out for the 225s for my 358 and will have to try the filing trick for my 356.
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^^^^^^^ This evening, I'm raising a glass to 1Akshooter's Uncle Ed! I humbly suggest everyone who reads this do likewise. I don't know either of these men, but Uncle Ed earns some respect! Indeed!
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Talked to Uncle Ed today and he is doing great. Told him about the .356 Winny I am getting and he liked talking about that. He still rides a stationary bike.
While we are at it lets raise a glass to my Uncle Leroy. Killed in the Philippines by a Japanese sniper a couple months after his 19th birthday and couple months before the war ended.
I will never know, but hopefully his buddies took care of the sniper.
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Talked to Uncle Ed today and he is doing great. Told him about the .356 Winny I am getting and he liked talking about that. He still rides a stationary bike.
While we are at it lets raise a glass to my Uncle Leroy. Killed in the Philippines by a Japanese sniper a couple months after his 19th birthday and couple months before the war ended.
I will never know, but hopefully his buddies took care of the sniper. Hear hear!
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