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Good stuff, and I'll take your word for it on the "small eggs".........There are also many stories about tough Leupold scopes that aren't being told. A couple of years ago one of my PA buddies was hunting mule deer with me. His 7STW wears a 3.5-10 VX3 CDS sending Barnes TTX's at warp speed. I had killed a buck and we were using my Polaris Ranger to hang it up on one of the feed bin rails. To make a long story short, when I was finished I made a quick turn and gassed it a bit at the same time. HIs rifle was just leaning on the front seat/floorboard and when I made that move it did a little dance across the caliche "road". We all thought "ah ohhhhhhh". Headed to the pit and it hadn't budged, I was shocked because it took a really nice tumble.

I'll also say this......My 2-12x VX6 has made 3 trips to Africa. It has survived the baggage handling dumbos each and evey time....has not wiggled. Meanwhile my brand new (at that time) Americase gun case looked like a tribe of pitbulls drug it through the streets of J'burg.

NICE! I've never been a joiner or jumper/hanger on, on or about anything, if something is good, I say it, if it's chit, I say that too, I'm actually going to throw a Polaris atv with a Browning BAR 338 in the scabbard wearing a Burris 1-3/4-5 scope in the bed of a Dodge 1 ton diesel truck, drive down and shoot the chit out of some deer and pigs this fall, so many people hate ALL those brands of equipment and wares.

Someone correct me if I am all wrong about this but "that little toothed "gear" that provides the little ball bearing with detents to click in" has a hell of a lot to do with proper tracking in a scope. If the detents do not hold, recoil or a bump to the rifle can cause loss of zero and if that ball does not stop in the center of the detent, one click will not equal the 1/4" or whatever it is supposed to at 100 yards. I did not know that Leupolds had a nylon detent ring. This might not be a good thing. RJ

You don't even need detents for a scope to hold zero or adjust correctly. Like I said, all they do is provide "clicks". I still have an old VX-IIc with friction adjustments that adjusts and holds zero just fine.

As an old Pontiac man (old man who had a bunch of old Pontiacs) I can speak with authority about nylon gears, timing gears in the case of Pontiacs. Also had some fishing reels and even some electro-mechanical telephone equipment with nylon gears. Certainly there's more than one kind of nylon, but I don't want any in the turrets of my scopes, dialing scopes or not. Seems like poor economy. Lube helps, no doubt, but how much lube can you put inside a scope before it becomes an issue?

Tim O'Connor of Leupold recommended in a magazine interview that users spin the knobs around a few times to spread the internal lube, and that advice cured a fussy VX-2 3-9 for me (so far), and may have helped with the others I bought since. Still, IMO, there's no excuse for questionable materials in a quality product.

Back in the heyday of Quality programs for corporations, the mantra was "Quality means meeting customer expectations, not goodness", Sounds like that philosophy is still in play. I just wish they'd own up to the real issues people are having and make the changes needed to meet current "Customer expectations" in the current market. A return to friction knobs on set and forget scopes would suit me just fine, if they stay put.

No, you don't need detents for a scope to hold zero, but on a scope with detents, the detent is a substitute for the friction on an erector without detents. And if the detent does not hold, the zero will not hold. That is why some of the older friction (non-detent) erector scopes hold zero so well. There is enough friction on the adjusting screws to keep them from moving. If a scope erector with detents had as much friction on the adjustment screws as a friction erector, you would not be able to feel the clicks as you turned the adjustment. RJ

And you know this how ? I just went in and checked a couple of my Leupolds. The detents seem plenty strong. I know they hold but it seems they're pretty stiff to rotate and may very well stay put without the liittle ball detent being there at all. These are VX-1 scopes and in previous generations were just friction adjustment. I haven't pulled them apart to look {and I'm not going to} but wouldn't be surprised if the only thing Leupold changed vs the old "clickless"models was to add the little detent ball/spring and gear and the rest is the same as before.

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