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You could turn 360 degree's from this point and the closest road you will find is 30 miles away to the West.... North , East and South the road is much further...


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Mature forest is very poor deer habitat. The unbroken canopy prevents sunlight from reaching the ground and chokes out growth on the forest floor producing very little food for wildlife. Combine that with long, hard winters in the Adirondacks and you have very few deer per square mile of habitat.. It is considered some of the toughest deer hunting in the entire US because of the low density and the vastness of the forest.


According to who? Can't be that hard given the fact that you claim to have killed over 200 of them there.
...The Adirondacks are considered some of the toughest deer hunting in the country by pretty much everybody who knows anything about deer hunting in the continental US, which you and several of your dunce buddies here obviously do not.


I have to say, JGRaider is likely considered to be one of the most successful deer hunters on these forums...

Yep waiting for him to show me how to hunt

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Dick measuring and chest thumping aside, seems to me that no matter where or how one hunts reliability needs to trump good customer service. Things break I get that. Known issues should be taken care of long before customer service is needed.

In my case, three VX-II failures soured me on the brand and I was a fanboy. There is so much I like about Leupold but I can’t see spending my money and having a nagging doubt.

The powers to be at Leupold rested on their laurels and were bypassed. I hope they come back because I certainly would.

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Originally Posted by JDK

The powers to be at Leupold rested on their laurels and were bypassed.


That about sums it up.



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It's gonna be a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng summer on the 'fire. laugh


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Have you ever been to the Adirondacks??



A wise man is frequently humbled.

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Have you ever been to the Adirondacks??



You mean the Adirondacks aka Rocky Mountains?


The AdiRonckies?


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Kind words guys, much appreciated, but I have perfected the art that luck trumps skill any day of the week.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Kind words guys, much appreciated, but I have perfected the art that luck trumps skill any day of the week.


That's rather modest JG, and we've come to expect no less from you.
But Louis Pasteur had it right; chance favors the prepared mind.


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I have two postulates to this discussion.

1. The FUBAR behavior of leupolds erector systems is perhaps why novice shooter feel overwhelmed when bore scope and " sighting" in a rifle is attempted . Lord knows I scratched my head 4 days, and ran out of ammo I couldn't afford to replace when I was young and financially challenged!

2. The more civilized and pressured whitetails become/ experience........the more nocturnal they become.


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I check in every once in a while just to see if this thread is still going... and it still is.

I am about to kick of a test on another Leupold scope. It is a long range precison scope, so I'l let you know how it tracks.

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Originally Posted by koshkin
I check in every once in a while just to see if this thread is still going... and it still is.

I am about to kick of a test on another Leupold scope. It is a long range precison scope, so I'l let you know how it tracks.

ILya



I've always found your tests interesting, but never understood how you conduct them. Can you explain it to us please?


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Kind words guys, much appreciated, but I have perfected the art that luck trumps skill any day of the week.



JG can kill some bucks no doubt...

Getting in position to be lucky takes skill...


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Originally Posted by GregW
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Kind words guys, much appreciated, but I have perfected the art that luck trumps skill any day of the week.



JG can kill some bucks no doubt...

Getting in position to be lucky takes skill...


Yes, "lucky" folks kill good critters every now and a again, guys that consistently kill good critters know what's going on..


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by JDK

The powers to be at Leupold rested on their laurels and were bypassed.


That about sums it up.



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And, its not the first American sporting goods company to do so, either. I guess slacking off if you can is just human nature, and is what frequently happens when the turnover is slow in upper management. It is hard to stay hungry when you are fat and happy.

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Originally Posted by shinbone
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Originally Posted by JDK

The powers to be at Leupold rested on their laurels and were bypassed.


That about sums it up.



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And, its not the first American sporting goods company to do so, either. I guess slacking off if you can is just human nature, and is what frequently happens when the turnover is slow in upper management. It is hard to stay hungry when you are fat and happy.


Resting on your laurels and corporate arrogance are not at all uncommon. Every business school class on the subject tell you that you have to really double up on innovation while you are still at the top, because once you start sliding down it may be too late. Yet it happens all the time.

I think Leupold is changing its ways and getting better again, but time will tell if it is too little too late or if it is enough to take them back to the top.

Sporting optics market is always changing, so Leupold has to be at the front of it if they want to persist.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by koshkin
I check in every once in a while just to see if this thread is still going... and it still is.

I am about to kick of a test on another Leupold scope. It is a long range precison scope, so I'l let you know how it tracks.

ILya



I've always found your tests interesting, but never understood how you conduct them. Can you explain it to us please?


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Well, I yanked that chit rifle that crap Leupold is bolted too and shot a 200lb wild boar at 509 yards last Sunday morning, ranged, spun and hit him square in his right shoulder, 208gr a-max exited left rear ribcage, DRT in the grass he lay, I have two more loaded rounds before i'll have to load another new 50 count bag of brass, that's two more dead pigs. smile


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Well, I yanked that chit rifle that crap Leupold is bolted too and shot a 200lb wild boar at 509 yards last Sunday morning, ranged, spun and hit him square in his right shoulder, 208gr a-max exited left rear ribcage, DRT in the grass he lay, I have two more loaded rounds before i'll have to load another new 50 count bag of brass, that's two more dead pigs. smile


Whoa there Little Doggy...Best R.I.P. that Leprosy scope before you shoot another round.

g5, you always gotta run that razors edge. 😎


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Ending on a happy note...A SWFA 5-20x50 hd landed today that I picked up off the Memorial Day Sale after Form gutter balled my Sig Whiskey5 scopes on this thread...

Everything is now “Right as Rain” at Beavs house 😎


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