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Well then, my apologies, I must have misinterpreted your meaning. I thought you were dissing Doug for his effort when you said this:





How could I have been so stupid?

Is there a noticeable edge to the blur? If so, it may be used to gauge distance.

I would like to make a couple of points here. I am not "dissing" anyone here, I just want to present an opposing opinion.


If there were other brands in the price range with the same attributes (light weight, good eye relief, small ocular, etc), that also had a stellar tracking record, then yes, I would not want to pay extra for Leupold to beef up their erectors. But, I do not know of another brand of scope with the attributes that I like about Leupolds, that also has a stellar tracking reputation, in the same price range. So what I am saying is, I would be willing to pay more for their scopes with a reliable erector to get a reliable erector in combination with those things that I do like about Leupold scopes.



I see what you are saying that Leupold knows what is wrong with their scopes. But I think the purpose of Dougs thread here, is to let Leupold know that WE KNOW what is wrong with their scopes and they are loosing many customers, which is affecting their sales income. RJ

Formidilosus, breaks a lot of gear using and testing it. For him, it’s a career, not just a hunting season. I’m beyond confident Form isn’t a paid shill.

To me it’s only naive to think I would only run 500 rounds of magnum chamberings under my optics. If a “source” is showing “catastrophic” failures after a few thousand rounds or less. That gives me serious concern.

I’m an equal opportunity purchaser. I run March, NF, Leupold, Zeiss, SWFA, Sightron, and Bushnell - All of these scopes are of the higher end line-card for each maker.

The Sig Whiskey5 and Tango6 have some excellent glass. Better than Leupold VX6 “subjective”,”yes” but I have the scopes to compare side by side...Not second hand my best pard said the scope was good schit....My eyes, my experience behind glass, my scopes. That means something, if only to me.

Now, I was vested in a few of these Sig scopes. I had read glowing reviews about them before I bought, including inside knowledge I was told about a few former Leupold engineers moving to Sig.

I decided to buy a Tango6 from a pard who also knows a lot about scopes and optics. He liked the scope, not the reticle.

Back to listening to one person..What benefit does Formidilosus derive from making damning statements about an optics failure?

I see none, other than upsetting a manufacturer who was trying to get a pass/fail certification from Forms organization which a “pass” would likely help push them further along in the purchasing process and being added to a requisition list for military or LEO needs.

And a fail means back to the drawing board or put your optic in front of the buying community, warts and all, and hope one organization won’t care that the scope lenses fell out after only 3k rounds fired down range.

Yes, there’s good scopes out their that will work and help a person kill animals...But, there’s not a lot of great scopes that have been built as a total package with menu features, unless you have the bank roll to whip out $3-$4k.

To afford my scopes, they’re has to be some concessions, so I can afford the purchase. I now choose durability and repeatability over great glass clarity....Good to really good glass works well for me along with tough internals...Weight? Pfftt, 28-32oz is fine for my hunting. 😎

PS
You can call me Shirley but never naive 😬

You're a dumbass.

Now, now, did you buy that sucker on E-Bay...it could be grey market Chinese....

You're a dumbass.

beaver (Shirley?)
No matter how definitive, no matter how all inclusive, one opinion is ONE opinion.
Maybe this is a generational issue, but, I much rather listen to numerous opinions before making a choice.
It's a free country, we are all free to believe what we want to believe!

Regarding Leupold: As long as the majority of the shooting population only chooses (needs?) set and forget scopes, the smaller wannabe- sniper "cranking" community will have to go elsewhere. ( SWFA found a niche and its life blood.)
I bet SWFA is hoping Leupold ignores this thread, because, Leupold can put them out of business if they wanted to......

And that's not an opinion.

But if it was, it would be unanimous......

You're a dumbass.

Quick Karl, IceCut, Llama Bob......are these all the same dolts in disguise?

You nanna whut?

Regarding Leupold: As long as the majority of the shooting population only chooses (needs?) set and forget scopes ...

Doug has explained his reasons for starting this thread more than once so they should be crystal clear.

Will it work? I don't know and Doug has admitted he doesn't know either but you've got to give him credit for trying. He's doing what he can to help out, the rest is up to Leupold. Plus, he sponsors the forum and for that alone he deserves some deference.

What he doesn't deserve is people questioning his motives or intelligence for posting the thread. He knows exactly what he's doing.