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The base Model 3 starting price is down to $31,850 and that's with a 240 mile range. $31,850 is about $4000 less than the cost of the average new car purchased in the U.S. today.

No, your electric car won't be your long distance vehicle - at least not yet. But it's perfect for the millions of people who commute back and forth ever day. GM did a study years ago and found that the average round trip commute is 40 miles. Any electric car currently on the market can handle that with ease. Plug it when you get home.

An electric car may cost more up front, but the total cost of ownership along with aggravation cost will be much less, no gas, no oil change, no tune ups and on and on.

Still don't think electric cars are the future? Well, the most conservative automaker out there - Toyota - had this to say today:

Toyota to speed up its rollout of electrified vehicles


Toyota, one of the pioneers of hybrid vehicle technology, has announced that it will bring forward its pure electric vehicle plans by five years.

In a briefing on the company's EV plans, Shigeki Terashi, Toyota's r&d chief, revealed that Toyota intends to have 5.5 million electrified vehicles -- which includes traditional hybrids, plug-in hybrids and battery-powered vehicles -- on the road by 2025. Previously, Toyota stated it was aiming to hit that sales target in 2030. Click Here

Electric vehicles are the future. But say you're worried the electric vehicle you buy today might be superseded with something better in a couple years? Good point - then leasing is for you. The dealer gets the electric vehicle credit lowering your lease payment to what is often a very attractive price point. Then add up the gasoline you won't be buying and you'll see that an electric vehicle is in your future.

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The base Model 3 starting price is down to $31,850 and that's with a 240 mile range. $31,850 is about $4000 less than the cost of the average new car purchased in the U.S. today.




No.

It's $39,900

Tesla puts "potential savings" into their advertised price, like tax breaks and theoretical gas savings.


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That's not unique to Tesla.


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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Yeah tesla is your all American car company. Those savings are fueled by 4.9Billion in government subsidies.

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Originally Posted by rainshot
Yeah tesla is your all American car company. Those savings are fueled by 4.9Billion in government subsidies.


How many government subsidies does the oil industry receive?

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Originally Posted by Dre
Can’t we all just get a long?

This is the Fire after all.

Now, why would we want to “just get a long”

We’d have only a fraction of the hits, ad revenue would tank, potentially we’d lose this soap box.

So, “ not getting along” may well be the secret to “getting along”.

Ha! So, put that in your pipe and take a couple of puffs.

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Originally Posted by JeffA
Matthew 26:75


New Testament?

Enjoy hell, a-hole.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by rainshot
Yeah tesla is your all American car company. Those savings are fueled by 4.9Billion in government subsidies.

You might want to do some fact checking, before you talk out your ass.

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So your Tesla is a few years old and needs a new battery, what's that cost?

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So, what ya gonna do out in the back country and the thing runs outta juice ? Maybe plug it into a currant bush ?

For metro types only.

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So, what ya gonna do out in the back country and the thing runs outta juice ? Maybe plug it into a currant bush ?

For metro types only.


At least some are catching on.

Barely.


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Originally Posted by qwk
Originally Posted by rainshot
Yeah tesla is your all American car company. Those savings are fueled by 4.9Billion in government subsidies.

You might want to do some fact checking, before you talk out your ass.



An excellent method of refuting a statement is to correct it, then show provenance supporting your position.

That $4.9B figure is certainly out there for quite some time now.


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So, what ya gonna do out in the back country and the thing runs outta juice ? Maybe plug it into a currant bush ?

For metro types only.


At least some are catching on.

Barely.


It's gotta be some sort of "cool factor"

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Certainly part of it.


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Originally Posted by rainshot
Yeah tesla is your all American car company. Those savings are fueled by 4.9Billion in government subsidies.


I have to lol at the righteous indignation when it comes to certain subsidies but not others. Oil and ag subsidies are good but Tesla bad? As I mentioned earlier the government invests our money, by way of subsidies, in industries that will benefit the military industrial complex and give the USA an edge in the advancement of technology. Solar energy is integral to satellites, electric powered vehicles can eliminate the Achilles heel of the military machine, fuel supplies. Drone technology, electric vehicles, autonomous vehicles, etc all have the potential to benefit this country militarily and in the civilian world. If we don’t develop it the Chinese or Japanese will. We’ve seen the evolution of the internal combustion engine and this is nothing more than a continuation of that evolution. Nothing stays static, change is the only certainty.


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Not to mention they employ 10,000 American’s and the owner runs SpaceX.

Yes, Tesla has and will always, receive subsidies.


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Originally Posted by rainshot
Yeah tesla is your all American car company. Those savings are fueled by 4.9Billion in government subsidies.

You might want to do some fact checking, before you talk out your ass.



An excellent method of refuting a statement is to correct it, then show provenance supporting your position.

That $4.9B figure is certainly out there for quite some time now.

They didn't have a 4.9 billion subsidy. They had a government loan that they paid back early.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-22/tesla-pays-off-its-465-million-loser-loan

It pays to do a simple google search before posting, but I guess it's just easier to post lies. There are a lot of posters here that are worse than the communist party that they supposedly hate.

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Originally Posted by 700LH
So your Tesla is a few years old and needs a new battery, what's that cost?

They are designed to last the life of the car, 300-500k miles or 15-20 years. Mine has 133k and has about 95% of its capacity left. There are quite a few with more than 250k miles and going strong.

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