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Leupold has nothing to prove imo. Their “market” is clear. Just like NF and SWFA clearly hit their market and have nothing to prove to “set and forget” folks that complain about the weight or exposed turrets. That's it in a nutshell.
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Leupold has nothing to prove imo. Their “market” is clear. Just like NF and SWFA clearly hit their market and have nothing to prove to “set and forget” folks that complain about the weight or exposed turrets. That's it in a nutshell. Well said, that was the 400th post on this thread. The other 90% of the posts were mostly BS.
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I see no problem with "set and forget" if that's what one wants. My guess is that not all are Fudds.
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Page back somebody asked about Freedom line tracking. I have the 3-9 EFR and it adjusted right in during zero. Non eventful in that regard. Have not done anything else with it. Rifle is zeroed. But is just a .22rf. It has not shifted impact since set.
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I used to primarily buy Leupold but haven't purchased one in 10+ years since they really fell behind the curve compared to companies like Bushnell, Weaver, SWFA, Vortex, Athlon, etc who decided to listen to hunters/shooters and produce optics with useful illuminated/mil/etched reticles, 5x+ magnification, useful dials (10-mil w/ zero-stop).
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Leupold has nothing to prove imo. Their “market” is clear. Just like NF and SWFA clearly hit their market and have nothing to prove to “set and forget” folks that complain about the weight or exposed turrets. That's it in a nutshell. In business....if you are not growing you are dying You must prove yourself every single day.
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Page back somebody asked about Freedom line tracking. I have the 3-9 EFR and it adjusted right in during zero. Non eventful in that regard. Have not done anything else with it. Rifle is zeroed. But is just a .22rf. It has not shifted impact since set. Not sure why you posted this, the lowest recoil round ever. Not a great testimony of long term use. Wowsa...
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If a company makes a scope, markets it as a certain type of scope and sells it to a particular niche in the market then yes they do need to prove themselves... Leupold has a tactical line as well as offerings in a hunting scope with exposed turrets designed primarily for dialing... Otherwise all their turrets would be capped... They turn out a schitt product and are knowledgeable of its short comings but still neglect to do anything to improve or correct it... Either prove they are able to satisfy that niche or do away with the product lines... If they are relying on the set and forget market then why not focus only on that aspect of it and have a stellar reputation instead of trying to satisfy all markets and have a well below average reputation...
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The set it & forget it crowd are a loyal bunch...... I agree 100% with elkhuninguide, btw
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Page back somebody asked about Freedom line tracking. I have the 3-9 EFR and it adjusted right in during zero. Non eventful in that regard. Have not done anything else with it. Rifle is zeroed. But is just a .22rf. It has not shifted impact since set. Not sure why you posted this, the lowest recoil round ever. Not a great testimony of long term use. Wowsa... Recoil is but one factor. I also see no claim of long-term anything. I'm using my hall pass to veto yours.
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If a company makes a scope, markets it as a certain type of scope and sells it to a particular niche in the market then yes they do need to prove themselves... Leupold has a tactical line as well as offerings in a hunting scope with exposed turrets designed primarily for dialing... Otherwise all their turrets would be capped... They turn out a schitt product and are knowledgeable of its short comings but still neglect to do anything to improve or correct it... Either prove they are able to satisfy that niche or do away with the product lines... If they are relying on the set and forget market then why not focus only on that aspect of it and have a stellar reputation instead of trying to satisfy all markets and have a well below average reputation... Dollars ?
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There's plenty of reports that they don't work for set and forget.
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If a company makes a scope, markets it as a certain type of scope and sells it to a particular niche in the market then yes they do need to prove themselves... Leupold has a tactical line as well as offerings in a hunting scope with exposed turrets designed primarily for dialing... Otherwise all their turrets would be capped... They turn out a schitt product and are knowledgeable of its short comings but still neglect to do anything to improve or correct it... Either prove they are able to satisfy that niche or do away with the product lines... If they are relying on the set and forget market then why not focus only on that aspect of it and have a stellar reputation instead of trying to satisfy all markets and have a well below average reputation... Dollars ? I suppose those counting the dollars couldn’t care less about the end users... that is until the dollar count gets lower and lower... Selling one’s reputation for a minimal profit is only telling of the true character of a company and what is to come in the future... Sad that a once great reputation will go to schitt over less than $50 worth of materials per optic...
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If a company makes a scope, markets it as a certain type of scope and sells it to a particular niche in the market then yes they do need to prove themselves... Leupold has a tactical line as well as offerings in a hunting scope with exposed turrets designed primarily for dialing... Otherwise all their turrets would be capped... They turn out a schitt product and are knowledgeable of its short comings but still neglect to do anything to improve or correct it... Either prove they are able to satisfy that niche or do away with the product lines... If they are relying on the set and forget market then why not focus only on that aspect of it and have a stellar reputation instead of trying to satisfy all markets and have a well below average reputation... Dollars ? I suppose those counting the dollars couldn’t care less about the end users... that is until the dollar count gets lower and lower... Selling one’s reputation for a minimal profit is only telling of the true character of a company and what is to come in the future... Sad that a once great reputation will go to schitt over less than $50 worth of materials per optic... You don't know anything about manufacturing, cost of production and the rest. Why come off on here as an expert ? That is why I have mentioned close this thread, because we get the idiots, dopes and the rest popping off.
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Rick should totally make you the Leupold Assist thread super duper moderator.
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If a company makes a scope, markets it as a certain type of scope and sells it to a particular niche in the market then yes they do need to prove themselves... Leupold has a tactical line as well as offerings in a hunting scope with exposed turrets designed primarily for dialing... Otherwise all their turrets would be capped... They turn out a schitt product and are knowledgeable of its short comings but still neglect to do anything to improve or correct it... Either prove they are able to satisfy that niche or do away with the product lines... If they are relying on the set and forget market then why not focus only on that aspect of it and have a stellar reputation instead of trying to satisfy all markets and have a well below average reputation... Dollars ? I suppose those counting the dollars couldn’t care less about the end users... that is until the dollar count gets lower and lower... Selling one’s reputation for a minimal profit is only telling of the true character of a company and what is to come in the future... Sad that a once great reputation will go to schitt over less than $50 worth of materials per optic... You don't know anything about manufacturing, cost of production and the rest. Why come off on here as an expert ? That is why I have mentioned close this thread, because we get the idiots, dopes and the rest popping off. Like if you have a clue... How does a once solid reputation on a product go to schitt... Cheaper parts of lesser quality... If that’s not obvious to you then you should move on... I’m not trying to come off as an expert or claim to be one either... I do know I’ve seen more Leupold scopes fail than you own or have touched first hand... Do you have anything useful to add here or are you just sticking out your ribs when you type to get noticed...
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If a company makes a scope, markets it as a certain type of scope and sells it to a particular niche in the market then yes they do need to prove themselves... Leupold has a tactical line as well as offerings in a hunting scope with exposed turrets designed primarily for dialing... Otherwise all their turrets would be capped... They turn out a schitt product and are knowledgeable of its short comings but still neglect to do anything to improve or correct it... Either prove they are able to satisfy that niche or do away with the product lines... If they are relying on the set and forget market then why not focus only on that aspect of it and have a stellar reputation instead of trying to satisfy all markets and have a well below average reputation... Dollars ? I suppose those counting the dollars couldn’t care less about the end users... that is until the dollar count gets lower and lower... Selling one’s reputation for a minimal profit is only telling of the true character of a company and what is to come in the future... Sad that a once great reputation will go to schitt over less than $50 worth of materials per optic... You don't know anything about manufacturing, cost of production and the rest. Why come off on here as an expert ? That is why I have mentioned close this thread, because we get the idiots, dopes and the rest popping off. Like if you have a clue... How does a once solid reputation on a product go to schitt... Cheaper parts of lesser quality... If that’s not obvious to you then you should move on... I’m not trying to come off as an expert or claim to be one either... I do know I’ve seen more Leupold scopes fail than you own or have touched first hand... Do you have anything useful to add here or are you just sticking out your ribs when you type to get noticed... You are the one blasting the BS, I just call it as I see it. If you don't like that, then go fish....
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What BS am I blasting other than hard facts... if you don’t like the facts you can cordially go fük yourself...
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What BS am I blasting other than hard facts... if you don’t like the facts you can cordially go fük yourself... Now we're getting somewhere!
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