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Smoke, I ALWAYS dial before shooting a charging bear..... sheesh...rookies

Let’s hope the Leupold staffers, who read this at Doug’s suggestion, have good filters.

The BS to “real meat” ratio is climbing.

Hope they get the message, understanding that for some reason this optics forum has historically been “special”. Sometimes “short bus” special. 😀

DF

Yes Dirtfmr I agree, this is no laughing matter......
You clowns need to straighten the hell up!

Was not a statement about durability, just how it zeroed.

No turret tap nonsense, or over run the mark during adjustment.

You missed the point completely, but then...........you'd probably blame that on Leupold.

Of course. Which rangefinder do you prefer in that situation?

2 clicks of right windage looking thru scope at the target at 100 yds
Reticle literally moved off the bull 12 to 14 inches diagonally to the 430 postion.
All part of the VX3i 3.5- 10x40 abortion I dealt with.
1.Run out of elevation using their dual dove tail mounts and rings with a mod 70 classic sporter.
2. Their .012 shim solution cost me 3 weeks of rifle season in 2016 waiting on em to arrive.
3. Chasing zero with imprecise or even remotely close adjustments.
4. Failure to hold zero and drift 4 inches left and 2 up over a period of 5 months put away.
5. The diagonal moving reticle incident.
6.mechanically recenter reticle and cant even pair a shot afterwards
during the diagnol reticle day.
7. Conversations with their techs and how they wanta blame you.
8.revelation by tech that unrepairable returned scopes with parts that are "good" are put back onto the assembly line.
9. Bout 70 bucks worth of barnes 168 grain ttsx ammo wasted with this fiasco.
10. 110 buck Price difference I sold nib replacement untrustworthy scope for the next day after I got it. Just to be done with their products and the bullschitt associated with leupold.
11. Leupold owes me about 180 bucks as far as I am concerned.



I can chuckle about it now.
But at the time I was pretty pissed off.
This was basically a 10 month line of bullschitt by leupold
before I had enough and said

Fugg leupold!!!!!!!

Gonna take alot of tested and improved components .
And rock solid reports from professionals like ones on here who earn a living testing scopes.
For me to ever consider buying one of their scopes ever again.

JMO and my experience.

Buyer beware...
They ain't the same "quality" product they once was.

Signed
Disgruntled life long ex leupold customer 1979 - 2017.......

This optics forum is "special" isn't it? A guy has a few Leupolds fail and he can cordially GF hisself. Both by fellow Campfire members and Leupold, so two for one GFY's.

Special.

As the campfire turns..... GFY....

I have experienced the same was multiple Leupold scopes.

Leupold guy, "Doug, uh, like, you know, I read that thread. They, uh, seem like a bunch of crazy people."

The pattern at Leupold is as old as organized business, itself:

Founder starts with little more than an idea and ambition. Works his ass off to build a company, producing a good product at a good price. Achieves a loyal following and great success based on his hard efforts. Next generation inherits the business and keeps it going, having seen how hard pops worked to make it happen. 3rd generation grows up fat and happy, never learns what hard work is and has no business knowledge. 3rd generation exploits the loyal following and puts the once great company into the toilet by focusing on making a quick buck with little effort.

Next!

Like leupold is gonna listen to anyone about their problems.
They have been hearing it for years.
From professionals to customers.
Ain't lifted a finger to improve schitt.


I'm sorry Doug....
But you might as well put on a pair of ruby slippers and click the heels together 3 times and wish leupold the best.

If you can get them to fix their weak ass components in the erector housings .
Ya are the fugging man!!!!

And when said fixes are completely tested by those outside leupold and proven to work.
Then alot of us might return to the lord of the rings scopes....


I don't see this happening....
Lmfao!!!



Lean sigma six business plan bullschitt as interpreted by leupold.
Cut material cost
Streamline production
Put out inferior product for greater profit margin
I guarantee a bunch of their bean counters have Lean sigma six black belt certificates in the offices.




Lmfao!!!

I think they’re past gen 3.

From what I read, this bunch fought the company taking on military optics contracts, making stuff used to kill people. If that’s their biggest concern, our issues are probably way down the list.

Just put me in the cautiously optimistic category.

Time will tell.

In the mean time, the world goes on.

DF

I make it a rule to always run if I see girl baring her big brush...Bear Brush the same....Very scary!

Nice rifle Fubar!
😎

The guy that started Accuracy International as well as bench rest shooter tried to get Leupold to build better scopes, they refused. The AI guy went to S&B after Leupold refused and the PM scope line was produced. March built the scopes the competitive shooters demanded, because Leupold refused.

If number 8. is indeed happening, that is really, really wrong.

He let that nugget slip to me during one of my many calls .
Asked him since scope is no good and your sending me a NIB replacement.
What do ya do with bad ones.



Disassemble
Return good parts to line.



They probably have a 55 gallon drum full of junk turret housing and erector component guts.

And they might not...



Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm?????

Can we at least try to keep this constructive? I assure you, a bunch of guys screaming that "I'd go back to irons before I'd use that steaming POS isn't helpful". Doug is making an honest effort, let's try to be at least a little objective.

Are you asking us to be "objective" (pun?) when our Leupolds fail? How much does even a typical deer hunt cost and how hard is it in terms of time off, effort expended, cost involved to get the shot at a good buck you've been patterning for months to have your scope let you down? And that's just a simple deer hunt, compound that for hard to get tags on even tougher species to hunt.

No, I don't owe Leupold my business, they have to EARN it, a concept that seems lost on them. I'll buy whatever works.