See what his career track was. If it was Safety, watch him carefully. If it was Tac Ops, dont let him PIC an A/C.
Kind of joking, but kind of not. Safety and Tac Ops were not the career tracks where your strongest of pilots end up. Not saying there arent some good ones there. Most of the hard-chargers wanted to track IP or Maintenance Test Pilot. The guys that loved to fly and had the true passion, wanted to stay on the flight line so they track IP or MTP.
An easy way to tell is to see how what the ratio of PIC time is to total time. If he is done with his initial hitch or retired, his PIC time should far outnumber his copilot(PI) time.
If you didnt hire him as a pilot, disregard the above.
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Typical commissioned aviator in the Army. They just dont fly. Warrants do most of the flying, spend their career at the flight line, not in a office.
Hawk your post reminded me of a meeting I had, when I was a Marine Aviator, with an Army Captain Aviator down in Honduras. He and I were coordinating an amphibious training exercise with the Honduran Army. The U.S. Army was flying CH-47s, with Warrant pilots. I asked him why he wasn't flying. He told me, with a straight face, that the Army held commissioned officer aviators in reserve to fly only the secret BGD-5. Not wanting to sound too misinformed, I admitted I was not familiar with that aircraft. He replied, it's a "Big Gray Desk with five drawers. We both had a good laugh.
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See what his career track was. If it was Safety, watch him carefully. If it was Tac Ops, dont let him PIC an A/C.
Kind of joking, but kind of not. Safety and Tac Ops were not the career tracks where your strongest of pilots end up. Not saying there arent some good ones there. Most of the hard-chargers wanted to track IP or Maintenance Test Pilot. The guys that loved to fly and had the true passion, wanted to stay on the flight line so they track IP or MTP.
An easy way to tell is to see how what the ratio of PIC time is to total time. If he is done with his initial hitch or retired, his PIC time should far outnumber his copilot(PI) time.
If you didnt hire him as a pilot, disregard the above.
Not a flying job so his resume isn't aviation focused but he was both an IP and a Safety guy. Not sure how many hours. Lots of time in the sandbox.
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Two second google of Laura Yeager Combat experience yielded : "Yeager has been in the military since 1986 and has an impressive list of accomplishments. She flew UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters in combat in Iraq, and she commanded California National Guard’s 40th Combat Aviation Brigade, according to the Defense Department news service. She was promoted from Colonel to Brigadier General in 2016."
Yeah....real loser......
Maybe you can read this when you come back from space station.
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Two second google of Laura Yeager Combat experience yielded : "Yeager has been in the military since 1986 and has an impressive list of accomplishments. She flew UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters in combat in Iraq, and she commanded California National Guard’s 40th Combat Aviation Brigade, according to the Defense Department news service. She was promoted from Colonel to Brigadier General in 2016."
Yeah....real loser......
Maybe you can read this when you come back from space station.
There is flying choppers in combat and then there is flying choppers in combat. Picking up a casualty while under fire is something different from picking up a casualty after the area has been cold for a 1/2 hour or acting as a flying taxi cab for VIP's.
Renegade50 is right if you haven't seen it in person it's hard to describe how messed up the Army award system is. In the Army basically the higher your rank the higher the award you will receive. IE PFC Joe Blow gets a good job from his Bn Commander, SSG Schmuckitelli gets an Army Achievement Medal and CPT Pussnuts gets a Meritorious Service Medal. Even if they all did the same thing to deserve being recognized. Awards for leaving a duty station are common.
The Marines are/were better about this. If a Marine received an award they pretty much deserved it IMO.
Another thing thing is the further away from the pointy end you were the worse the awards inflation was. Prior to 9/11 I was in a Cav unit and the SOP was that every big field problem resulted in 2 enlisted receiving awards, which were usually AAM or ARCOMS. There was a write up about the Post CSM's secretary in the post newspaper one day and she had something like 2 1/2 years service with 4 or 5 each AAM and ARCOMS. You see enough of that stuff and you get kind of jaded.
Two second google of Laura Yeager Combat experience yielded : "Yeager has been in the military since 1986 and has an impressive list of accomplishments. She flew UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters in combat in Iraq, and she commanded California National Guard’s 40th Combat Aviation Brigade, according to the Defense Department news service. She was promoted from Colonel to Brigadier General in 2016."
Yeah....real loser......
Maybe you can read this when you come back from space station.
VIP Taxi pilot.... Safe orbit around the airfeild....
Combat in Iraq...
Ohhhhh......
Bob on the fob schit........
Lmfao!!!
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I can just imagine her " observing " Live fire maneuver training at infantry units summer camps
Tm , sqd, plt and company level stuff.
Not having a clue....
Some pfc or spc gets called on during an AAR to give his veiw on what happened in the deliberate assualt battle drill, good, bad,improves, and sustains. He starts using acronyms and describing actions everyone knows and understands. Everyone is tracking....
And she ain't got a fugging clue about anything...
Says something like this at the end.... "You all did a good job and follow what all your leadership has to say" "They have a lot of experience and your unit can build and grow from that".
Standing their and everyone see,s the deer in the headlight look being carefully smoke screened by her with a cock sticking outta her forehead. And they all are like WTF afterwards.....
My only experience with the Nasty Guard was Afghanistan 2009. It was the the Tennessee NG and our BCT commander from what I saw and heard did not treat the Col from the guard as a equal. Our BCT commander was a infantry officer. So they ended up where were we were at. Our SCO was an infantry officer and didn’t care for the COL either. Treated him so, what’s the point. These guard folks are treated not as equals. It’s been like that since I been in. You will see this more in regular Army IBCT, SBCT or ABCT.
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Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
Most of those infantry guard round up brigades are not ready for any uptempo operations at all and putting em in the fire with their level of training is basically murder. Most of em cant even make pre deployment readiness standards Training wise and man power wise if activated.
They usually wind up doing hard site guard duties for the most part.
Her appointment is purely a PC feel good move and appeasement for the vote in california even though it is really not needed in liberal wasteland. She is probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat being appointed intially by either Jerry brown or gavin newsome.
My only experience with the Nasty Guard was Afghanistan 2009. It was the the Tennessee NG and our BCT commander from what I saw and heard did not treat the Col from the guard as a equal. Our BCT commander was a infantry officer. So they ended up where were we were at. Our SCO was an infantry officer and didn’t care for the COL either. Treated him so, what’s the point. These guard folks are treated not as equals. It’s been like that since I been in. You will see this more in regular Army IBCT, SBCT or ABCT.
The 278th??? Hahaha!!! Totally beleivable.....
I OC,d Clinton's kids in 93 and 94 ARKNG 39th IN Bde The most racially segregated unit you could ever imagine.
Gawd it was painful those 2 summers. Walking with platoons x3 a day x 2weeks each summer. Some of the schitt I could tell about that.
You would have to have been in combat arms to understand, laugh your azz off.
The thing about it at the time They was our round up bde. So we had a interest in trying to help em and not just be dickheads with a evaul sheet, pen and a clipboard ginging em on blown critical task or tactics. I don't remember how many platoons I recocked those summers And gave em some quick tactful schooling and walk thru,s on how to do certain sqd and platoon level battle drills.
My only experience with the Nasty Guard was Afghanistan 2009. It was the the Tennessee NG and our BCT commander from what I saw and heard did not treat the Col from the guard as a equal. Our BCT commander was a infantry officer. So they ended up where were we were at. Our SCO was an infantry officer and didn’t care for the COL either. Treated him so, what’s the point. These guard folks are treated not as equals. It’s been like that since I been in. You will see this more in regular Army IBCT, SBCT or ABCT.
The 278th??? Hahaha!!! Totally beleivable.....
I OC,d Clinton's kids in 93 and 94 ARKNG 39th IN Bde The most racially segregated unit you could ever imagine.
Gawd it was painful those 2 summers. Walking with platoons x3 a day x 2weeks each summer. Some of the schitt I could tell about that.
You would have to have been in combat arms to understand, laugh your azz off.
The thing about it at the time They was our round up bde. So we had a interest in trying to help em and not just be dickheads with a evaul sheet, pen and a clipboard ginging em on blown critical task or tactics. I don't remember how many platoons I recocked those summers And gave em some quick tactful schooling and walk thru,s on how to do certain sqd and platoon level battle drills.
Holy fugg.....
The stories the best one was when the Maj their XO ph ucking lost it pulled out his M9 and threatened to shoot the SGM. They didn't have a CSM but a Staff SGM never understood that part. He was on a bird to Salerno then a after that behavioral health in BAF and back home to Tennessee. Then that COL decided they all needed CAB's so him and his PSD team were driving throughout the CAV AO from Herrera to Zormat looking for a gunfight. Well one day they found it in the form of a big ph ucking IED that blew one of there MRAPS on it's side, several Soldiers were medvac to Salerno. After that those Soldiers couldn't take it no longer and filed an IG and EO complaint. Last I saw that COL he was in Salerno waiting for a plane ride to BAF to go home as well. The best one was a fella by the name of Bob Moore they called him the BeeKeeper. he was a college professor at some college in Tennessee. He was a SGT and he didn't give two chits about rank he would walk up to you and introduce himself Hi I'm Bob Moore. He was in his late 50's early 60's. They were replaced later in the year by the Nevada National Guard. when we had to un a$$ that AO and head to Camp Clark the Cav handed over that AO to the Georgia NG and those boys were no interested in doing anything but sitting on there a$$e$ waiting to go home.
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
We didnt deal with the guard in desert storm or OIF 1
They started hitting theatre in Iraq as round ups well after we left. Mostly guard type duties thruout the country. The whole concept of em being able to stand up and conduct operations like active duty bde,s is pretty flawed.
Some excellent soldiers in the guard , unfortunately they are out numbered by a get by culture and very limited training hinders them big time.
And alot of times fools with rank making fugged up decisions.
Some schit ya just cant overcome
Good old boy schit and nepotism in those units is really bad also. Seen that 1st hand with Clinton's kids back in the day.
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