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I see all the reports in the media about how catastrophic an attack on iran would be, putin is saying it, the media is saying it, its like OMG we can't possibly attack Iran. Meanwhile there is a laundry list of stuff they have been behind that have led to lost american lives. They have sought to destabilize the entire region for years. Pretty much everyone in the entire geographic area views them as a pariah. the saudi's, israelis, pretty much most of the middle east views them as a threat. It would seem to me the way to handle this is one massive and decisive military air strike and take everything out all at once. cripple the nuke program. bomb all important military targets. notify all vessels in the straight of hormuz that if you are identified as iranian, your boat will be sunk. Take out every military vessel on the iranian coast. Just a massive and withering attack. Seriously what is Iran going to do to us. They possess no means of projecting military authority. They can't fight us back. I am not suggesting an invasion with ground troops. What I am suggesting is the notion that our patience is over and fire and brimstone bringeth forth. Become a peaceful nation or the arieal bombing will continue. I see us as holding all the cards with Iran here.

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An invasion was planned and practiced years ago.......it weren't no picnic.


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oh I am sure and invasion would not be a picnic. That is why I don't suggest it. I think we have learned after iraq,syria, etc. what really is the point of invading? The people will hate us, and because we do not fight wars to win, like we did in say WW2, ie patten is told LEVEL the place. we don't have the political will to win a ground invasion style war anyways. Nor do we need to fight that way. Trump would also need congressional approval for that type of force, which he would not be granted. But what he could do is like I said a massive strike, maybe limit it to one day. just make it withering. That is my suggestion.

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They're probably just pissed they're nowhere near as good at destabilizing as we are.

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Either economically or militarily the Mullahs must be removed They have sort of worn out their welcome.

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Just dont know what a massive strike would accomplish.


Drive up defense stocks, oil, rubber prices, open the door for the crazies.....uh.......


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This should be on the kookista thread. 😂

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Our good friends and allies in Europe depend on business with iran.


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They might have a lot of sleeper cells here, just waiting....

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Just a bunch of pigs. They will die just like the rest.

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Originally Posted by poboy
Our good friends and allies in Europe depend on business with iran.



They also rely on business with us and access to our giant economy. They have their collective tail caught in the door...can't back up...can't go forward.

Sure tariffs hurt. They hurt both ends, but American deaths in any war hurt too. Let's ramp up support and resources for our friends, Poland for instance, and build a strong middle and eastern European structure and alliance, then tell NATO to GFY and make sure they know that Iran is to blame.


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Options

1. Destroy the Iranian Economy -- watch the country destroy itself from within - Cost: not much

2. Wage war on Iran - cost 1 trillion+ and thousands of American lives.




hmmmmmmmm ....

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Originally Posted by poboy
Our good friends and allies in Europe depend on business with iran.


So does Russia and China. It would be easy enough to devastate Iran, but what Pandora’s box would that open?

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well what does Q have to say about all this? Where are our residents kooks at when you need them jesus....


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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does no one reconize the economic panic that would result with open hostilities with iran? those straights are not very wide, a lot of the world's supply of oil passes through there, and even with us being energy independent that is not true of those countries it would effect if iran started to mine those straights. Stock market straight to hades, along with a lot of other things.
not to mention the economic dollar cost to do such a thing.

I think iran is pulling the beard on the tiger, and none of us really know whats going on.


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Price of oil would rise naturally. This benefits the russians the most. The russian economy is in the tank due to low oil prices. Russia has the most to gain, and certainly this would benefit Prime Minister Putin.

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War with Iran?

OK let's think about this.

Does the government of Iran deserving of annihilation? YES! And they have been for about 35-40 years.

Do I agree with the excuse of the strikes against the 2 tankers a few days ago? NO!!!!!!!!!

We have, and have had good reasons to erase the Iranian government from the surface of the earth in the past, and I am 100% sure those goat-humpers will give REASON for such action in the future. Reasons are not the same as excuses.

We know the strikes on the tankers are not directed at the USA and I am about 90% sure that Iran didn't even do it. So if we "hit them back" and the truth comes out that we hit them as an excuse the USA will then be remembered as the nation that used deceit and lies to go to war, just as Hitler's German did on Sept 1, 1939 and as the Japanese did on September 18, 1931. There are WAAAY to many things wrong with the whole tanker story that the press is trying to feed us, and even in the slim chance it was true, the proof is lacking and that means the USA and it's military (Myself a former member) would be a thing of shame if we can't prove that we are damaged and actually striking BACK instead of simply striking.

Clearly we are NOT. Neither tanker was a US owned ship, and the crew of the Japanese ship said they SAW flying objects hit their ship. Pompaio is telling us to not believe those men or their 'lying eyes'. Believe Him instead???? A man with a long and confirmed past as a professional liar?

"We do not want to go to war with Iran" and that seems P.C. to all that hear it, but it's a fact, and it's outspoken that Iran IS at war with the USA, and has been for decades. That's not going to stop soon. So let's use a reason, not an excuse.

The reason I am such a "hawk" is that I understand those that pose as weak and those that truly are weak are ALWAYS a target for any godless people or person that thinks themselves as stronger. No one ever went to war with us knowing they would loose everything. Peace can be maintained by the strong, but not the weak.

As I write this, freedom loving but inactive cowards in Oregon and California are being stripped of their rights and soon are told they'll be stripped of the means to defend those rights. Why? Because they already surrendered! Same in much of Illinois and some states in the East. So....how well is that "going along to get along" working out for you?
It's like ignoring the fire in another room of your house. The destruction is coming and the best thing you can do to help the destroyer is to ignore it.

The communists and the Muslims do not want a war of blood shed and then victory. The want victory and then easy bloodshed of their enemies, IN THAT ORDER! The left knows it is at war with the Right, and the Right is too stupid (or more likely just cowardly) to accept that truth, even when the leftist say the word "war" openly and repeatedly. The Goat-humpers do it too.

In a Military Officers Handbook from the turn of the century the acts of war were listed to educate new officer candidates. Those pages of their education has been removed from their books now, (oh what a surprise.) but the truth of that book is none the less still true.

A few were (and are)

Take control of the monetary system.

Take regulatory control over religious traditions.

Take control of the press and the ability to decent. (censorship)

Place taxes on the population so as to have the ability to keep the population at a level of economic prosperity that suits the agenda of the conqueror.

Disarm the people of weapons useful in rebellion or warfare.

Take control of the distribution of food, water and medicine.

Regulate the people's ability to travel freely.

Force the people to accept citizens from another nation to settle the land, and move into the towns and cities .

I'll stop here, but that is not all of them. See anything interesting in that list at all?


Yes, the citizens of the USA need to go to war, and it needs to be an ALL-OUT WAR OF ANNIHILATION! But the nation of Iran is probably about #3 or #4 on the list and maybe a lot lower than that.

#1 is a Civil War.

and #2 may just be Mexico.

The Dem/Comms are sworn enemies of all that is Godly in this nation and their sole purpose is the destruction of the Bill of Rights and the total take-over of the populations with some of the methods just listed. They are at war with US! And they know it. Conservatives, as I said, do not know it at best, or are too cowardly to admit that they do know it, at worst. So they play right into the hands of their children's enemies. They give up with no fight at all, and if they think the Left is not going to resort to blood-letting when the Right has surrendered 100% , they have never read 5 minutes worth of the history of Socialist/Communist victories.

It's the mind of the free thinker that is the enemy of the Left. They need to destroy ideas and the only way that works for them in all history is to kill those that are willing to think anything in opposition to their dictates. Look at the fate of those the just obeyed the Communists and Stateist in the past. You can learn the pattern fairly quickly.

Cowards however will not even look. They will shout down those that tell them the truth because the truth is that it's our responsibility, not "someone's" responsibility. We see it right here on this forum many times, and always from the cowards, and the stupid. The Left's desire is surrender and then bloodshed. IN THAT ORDER!

Mexico: The country to our south that has at no time in the history of the USA been a friend to the USA. At times they were neutral, and the rest of the time harmful to us. But never friendly or overtly helpful.

They invade us, and they aid all others (until very recently) who want to invade us. The pass dirty monies, drugs, human trafficking, and all manor of criminals and crime over our southern border, and in both World Wars were friendly to the enemies of the USA. Now with Mr Trump in office they are coming to understand that their ease of criminal activity is going to be curtailed, but do not fall for the lie they will now suddenly like us.

War? Probably a bit too harsh (as of now)---- but the realization that war is an option (and not necessarily a distant one) would do more to keep them conducting their criminal activities SOUTH of the US border, and never allow any of it to slip north.

As of now the Constitutional Republic is in more danger of disappearing from the earth than at any time in history, back to the war of 1812. Iran is not the enemy that will deal that death blow. The Dem/Comms are! If blood is to be spilled in extreme, it should be against the "Domestic Enemies of the Constitution" as per the oath of enlistment, and the oaths of office we all take to join the military or any public office. Note the wording says it's about enemies of the CONSTITUTION!

Read it.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Side note:

(The U.C.M.J. states orders must be lawful. You have no duty at all to obey Un-constitutional orders. Cops and military men, take note!)

The DOMESTIC Enemies ARE the Dem/Comms as well as any and all officers and agents who would undermine, subvert or destroy the Bill of Rights!

They are the ones that ALWAYS push for anything that would be an affront to the Holy God, and all things in opposition to true liberty. If God is against it, the Dem/Comms are for it. If God is for it, the Dem/Comms are against it. And in sporting them, or even just going along with them, we dare God to curse us.

America is the country most blessed by God since the days of King Solomon, in all earth's history. That is the result of God's blessings. The left at it's highest levels knows that if they can get the citizens of the USA to turn from God, they can bring their full might against us and the Hold God will not defend us any more.

The Dem/Comms are Satanic and that fact needs to be said out-loud and publicly. Let the PC police (all Dems) scream, but the truth needs to be shouted from the roof tops. Not all enemies of the Constitution are Dems, but all Dems are enemies of the Constitution.

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The CIA has been there for years; it wouldn't take a lot to overthrow the mullahs once the back of the revolutionary guard was broken.


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Just keep squeezing the economic boil and at the right time hand their unhappys a lance.


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