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Now that the majority of posters in this section has condemned Leupold scopes and their progeny, what will you use in the future? Should scopes even have black tubes or gold markings anymore? I'm thinking that people might mistake them for Leupolds. Perhaps they should be camoflaged, made a dull brown, flat blue, or painted vibrant reds, yellows and pinks...for the benchrest crowd, and gay people...but I'm not saying that BR shooters are gay, ok? Just trying to be all inclusive. Although I suppose some of the BR crowd probably are, but again, that's ok. Just trying to be all inclusive.  Apart from properly fixing the erectors, the knobs, reticles, and other stuff I probably missed, is there something that Leupold should do to make amends to the shooting public?  Years ago, they would have taken the owners or senior people into the public square and had them flogged. Would that be a possibility? I was just thinking that they might do things properly if they knew that it was not going to go well for them personally. You know, if they put profits above quality.  Should there be a sheriff's sale of the factory and property to another scope company? Should Leupold users be shunned by Zeiss or NF owners? Or shamed into divesting themselves of all their Leupold scopes in favour of something of higher quality?  I'm confused. See, I only have one Leupold, so I don't feel angry or ashamed. Should I be ashamed though? I did get it repaired up here (for free), but what other 4 power scopes would do? So many questions. So confusing... Doesn’t even warrant a response. I think I’m dumber for having read this... John
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But you did respond. Now that the majority of posters in this section has condemned Leupold scopes and their progeny, what will you use in the future?
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The combined rounds fired per year of these posters combined other than Dog prolly amount to under 200. And the average age cannot be much less ...
Leupold circle jerks are an impressive specimen...
Edited, not worth it I agree... Let's chat about the same documented chit for the 100th time. Yep, hashed, re-hashed, and re-re-hashed to death.
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Might try a Barska later this year....
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Have read a few times on the Campfire that Barska's are great.
Of course, have read many differing optics opinions on the Fire....
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Have read a few times on the Campfire that Barska's are great.
Of course, have read many differing optics opinions on the Fire.... Grin....
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Have read a few times on the Campfire that Barska's are great.
Of course, have read many differing optics opinions on the Fire.... Grin.... I little rich for my wallet, I mean $40 for a 4x32 plex? Do I LOOK like a Rockefeller? I mean, do they still make the Tasco Pronghorn 4x32?
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The combined rounds fired per year of these posters combined other than Dog prolly amount to under 200. And the average age cannot be much less ...
Leupold circle jerks are an impressive specimen...
Edited, not worth it I agree... Let's chat about the same documented chit for the 100th time. Yep, hashed, re-hashed, and re-re-hashed to death. Make my hash corned beef.
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A well priced Zeiss gets my attention. It seems like a Leupold 2.5-8x36 is unmatched for eye relief and “fit” though. YMMV.
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I've had more Weaver's than any other brand over the years and they have always done well for me. I still have and use several K-2.5's, K-4's, V-7's and V-9's without issue. With those gone, I'll probably give a Burris Fullfield E-1 a try when I need another scope.
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if i don`t buy or use Leupold , i now only use or buy the best Nightforce scopes .no more cheap scopes for me i need a scope i can depend on.
LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
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Have read a few times on the Campfire that Barska's are great.
Of course, have read many differing optics opinions on the Fire.... Grin.... Oculus optics are absolutely bulletproof. I have never seen or used one, but take it to the bank anyway.
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Have read a few times on the Campfire that Barska's are great.
Of course, have read many differing optics opinions on the Fire.... Yeah well I can remember when Sightron was the internet optics guru's new wonder scope, then it was Vortex and then Athlon was the new shining star. Now those are all unreliable junk. Only one things for sure. Doesn't matter whether it's optics or truck tires, internet forum reviews ain't worth spit and the forum "experts" don't know shyt from shinola.
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Oh and I just burned 50 rounds off the back porch 15 minutes ago, shot 100 off the porch and out the living room window last evening and went through 400 over the past week. This will go on at a similar rate all summer so I do shoot just a wee bit.
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Have read a few times on the Campfire that Barska's are great.
Of course, have read many differing optics opinions on the Fire.... Yeah well I can remember when Sightron was the internet optics guru's new wonder scope, then it was Vortex and then Athlon was the new shining star. Now those are all unreliable junk. Only one things for sure. Doesn't matter whether it's optics or truck tires, internet forum reviews ain't worth spit and the forum "experts" don't know shyt from shinola. It certainly works that way. As we used to say in the service, opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Of the expensive scopes, it appears that NF is getting support from members here. Was that happening before the Leupold blowout, or is it something that happened as a result of the bad threads?
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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benchrest shooters have been using Nightforce scopes for a while now, i have been using them for bench rest and hunting for over 10 years now and never have had any problems with this brand scope Nightforce. but to be honest my old Leupold scopes have been good scopes too ,Leupold scopes just don`t adjust as well as a Nightforce scopes do for me .
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Ah, I know that they had been around for a while, but I always thought of them as tactical/LR scopes.
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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Oh and I just burned 50 rounds off the back porch 15 minutes ago, shot 100 off the porch and out the living room window last evening and went through 400 over the past week. This will go on at a similar rate all summer so I do shoot just a wee bit.
Only thing you've burned is all of your brain cells living up there in the Rocky Mountain Adirondacks.
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Oh and I just burned 50 rounds off the back porch 15 minutes ago, shot 100 off the porch and out the living room window last evening and went through 400 over the past week. This will go on at a similar rate all summer so I do shoot just a wee bit.
Only thing you've burned is all of your brain cells living up there in the Rocky Mountain Adirondacks. Says a fuggin Texican. BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAAAAA ! Keep killin those Texas zoo animals and thinkin you're quite a hunter. Just remember to wipe the corn off their lips before you take the photo's. Boy.
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Thank goodness Blackheart chimed in to set the record straight. I feel tons better about the optics discussion now...
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