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What makes them atrocities?

god, in his munificence would have done more for us down here on the earth.

but he was limited in resources at the time.

he had other responsibilities.

he wanted the best for us.

but he could only do so much.

ya know?

and now it's up to us to work it out.

it's going good in some ways, in others not so much.

at the end of the era, he'll give us some credit, and he'll take some blame??

jaguartx, But are you sure you got the message right?

Its amazing how deep Lucifer can get in peoples heads. They get so addicted to his crap they dont want to see the light.

The deep state cimmies have evidently learned his methods also. It doesnt matter if you point out how destructive muzxy immigration and open borders are for our nation. its impossible to get through to brainwashed folks like Diddler. They stick to the commie line like the lost do to Satan.

Its like some are afraid and too chicken to as Jesus Christ into their heart to change them. They seem afraid if He did it would prove how wrong they have been and they would be ashamed to admit it to Him.

I was at that point many years ago in my life when with asthma and smoking i got to the point i couldnt breath. I almost followed satan and said to hell with it i will just die smoking. What pissed me off was realizing all those rich pricks who inherited their grandads millions from tobacco stocks were living it up on the French Rivera on my life and dime.

F those bastids. I got the patch and the gum. I said, Satan, get the behind me. PTL, He saved me. Because of Him im not near the ass i used to be.

I'll be praying for you, Rimfire, for Him and against Satan.

Take care and God bless as your needs may be.

I know what He said, do you? He said, "Call no one on earth father, for your father is in heaven".

He said, "Make no graven images unto me".

What happened to the Levite who was found in the tabernacle with a graven image?

He did it because, as the Lord said, the men did as THEIR understanding led them to do.

IOW, they made excuses not to follow His word to them. They figured things out and justified their understanding.

You ever see a priest who wasnt on this earth?

Get the board out of your own eye.

Satan fully obeys what God tells him to do , You on the other hand fail God on a regular and daily basis.

To be A transgressor means you are disobeying God and serving Satan , so how far is Lucifer imbedded into your makeup?

I sure do. Im an hourly sinner.

Hourly? , Id say that's putting it mildly.

again...To be so wicked , how far is Lucifer imbedded into your make up?



but as a transgressor you yourself serve Satan....does that make you credible?

How is it that Satan obeys God , but transgressor Christians cannot and instead serve Satan?

One more time good folks, the message in short form.

NIce assertion. I see you provided no evidence to support it.

Why complicate things with a god that created us with choices and consequences for those choices.

Take the god from this equation, and we still have humans with choices and consequences for those choices. The god you proposes adds nothing to the equation, and WWII is better explained without it.

Considering the Theist claim that the Bible was written by the all knowing creator of the universe, he sure is a lousy communicator.

Scripture tells that according to the Lord transgressors are worthy of destruction...if you think its a bad attitude then take it up with the Father.

he sent his son to redeem you, but saving comes through grace...which means you are still worthy of destruction, but by his grace you are spared.

God would rather blot you out, but he offers you something you don't deserve called GRACE.

Within the biblical texts, how many people are killed by Satan, and how many are killed by, or at the direction of God?

Nope, you’re totally wrong.

You probably never wondered about what Jesus “hearing ears.”

Look it up.

Or you are a lousy listener.

Seems to me He needs to kill a whole lot more. I would.

Murder everyone who's not a female virgin.
What do you call that if not an atrocity?

From Numbers:


And Moses spake unto the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the Lord of Midian.

4 Of every tribe a thousand, throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the war.

5 So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war.

6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.

8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.

9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.

10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.

11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.

12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.

14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.

15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.

20 And purify all your raiment, and all that is made of skins, and all work of goats' hair, and all things made of wood.

21 And Eleazar the priest said unto the men of war which went to the battle, This is the ordinance of the law which the Lord commanded Moses;

22 Only the gold, and the silver, the brass, the iron, the tin, and the lead,

23 Every thing that may abide the fire, ye shall make it go through the fire, and it shall be clean: nevertheless it shall be purified with the water of separation: and all that abideth not the fire ye shall make go through the water.

24 And ye shall wash your clothes on the seventh day, and ye shall be clean, and afterward ye shall come into the camp.

25 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

26 Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:

27 And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:

28 And levy a tribute unto the Lord of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:

29 Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the Lord.

30 And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons, of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, of all manner of beasts, and give them unto the Levites, which keep the charge of the tabernacle of the Lord.

31 And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.

32 And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,

33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,

34 And threescore and one thousand asses,

35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

36 And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:

37 And the Lord'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.

38 And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the Lord'S tribute was threescore and twelve.

39 And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the Lord'S tribute was threescore and one.

40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the Lord'S tribute was thirty and two persons.

41 And Moses gave the tribute, which was the Lord'S heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the Lord commanded Moses.

42 And of the children of Israel's half, which Moses divided from the men that warred,

43 (Now the half that pertained unto the congregation was three hundred thousand and thirty thousand and seven thousand and five hundred sheep,

44 And thirty and six thousand beeves,

45 And thirty thousand asses and five hundred,

46 And sixteen thousand persons;)

47 Even of the children of Israel's half, Moses took one portion of fifty, both of man and of beast, and gave them unto the Levites, which kept the charge of the tabernacle of the Lord; as the Lord commanded Moses.

48 And the officers which were over thousands of the host, the captains of thousands, and captains of hundreds, came near unto Moses:

49 And they said unto Moses, Thy servants have taken the sum of the men of war which are under our charge, and there lacketh not one man of us.

50 We have therefore brought an oblation for the Lord, what every man hath gotten, of jewels of gold, chains, and bracelets, rings, earrings, and tablets, to make an atonement for our souls before the Lord.

51 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of them, even all wrought jewels.

52 And all the gold of the offering that they offered up to the Lord, of the captains of thousands, and of the captains of hundreds, was sixteen thousand seven hundred and fifty shekels.

53 (For the men of war had taken spoil, every man for himself.)

54 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of the captains of thousands and of hundreds, and brought it into the tabernacle of the congregation, for a memorial for the children of Israel before the Lord.

well, yeah. but there it is.

the first rule was to kill all the heathen.

the second rule was to offer forgiveness to the ones that want it.

what about the third rule?

So much for "all loving".....