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Yes, according to the article I posted. Somebody here subsequently made reference to a 3rd trial. I have no knowledge of that.

I am not a Ventura fan. The facts are though that Ventura won his first court case against Kyle's estate. The case never was against Kyle's family including his widow and their finances were never jeopardized by either case.

The first case was overturned by the 8th Circuit on a technicality. In it, Ventura had proven that Kyle defamed him by lying about having punched him out in a bar fight where Ventura made derogatory remarks about Navy Seals. To do that Ventura had to prove that Kyle was lying about the derogatory remarks-in other words, he didn't make them and that Kyle lied about punching him out-Kyle didn't punch Ventura. The story came from Kyle's famous book. The story had to have damaged Jesse's reputation significantly as well.

Subsequently, either Harper Collins, the book's publisher or their insurance company, had to pony up money to settle the lawsuit.

Those are all facts. Whether Ventura is a "douche" or not doesn't enter into it. Kyle's family was not damaged in the least, financially from it because they didn't pay the settlement.

Cases like this test peoples' moral convictions for their support of the rule of law.

.....or not.

Around the time of the trial there were also some comments made that where the trial was held might have influenced the decision in the trial.

Jesse Ventura is pretty convincing in that video the OP posted.

That's exactly what I was looking to draw out trying to get past all the swirling drama and half page diatribes. Thanks.

You're lucky to have known him, for a long time he was a man that I would have liked to shake the hand of. He was a great American and a badass warrior.

Rogan is a great interviewer and Ventura makes some VERY solid points that all sound extremely credible. I went into this like the rest of you, Kyle was a hero, Ventura a zero.This completely changed my perspective on the issue. I recommend you watch the video..........

Well said!!!

If by number of confirmed kills, it would be Bert Waldron. Nothing against fellow Arkansan Carlos Hathcock, who shares my birthday.

Dunno who's lying about what. Jesse says Kyle was awarded 3 Bronze Stars, Kyle said 5? Didn't read the book he wrote. Wiki says Kyle was awarded 4 Bronze Stars, so who knows?

First tour in Nam I had 2 DFC's pinned on my chest by the CG 101st ABN about 4 months apart. Only one set of orders made it into my records, so in the world of paperwork I only received one. You guys can figure it however you want.

[/quote]Yes, according to the article I posted. Somebody here subsequently made reference to a 3rd trial. I have no knowledge of that.

I am not a Ventura fan. The facts are though that Ventura won his first court case against Kyle's estate. The case never was against Kyle's family including his widow and their finances were never jeopardized by either case.

The first case was overturned by the 8th Circuit on a technicality. In it, Ventura had proven that Kyle defamed him by lying about having punched him out in a bar fight where Ventura made derogatory remarks about Navy Seals. To do that Ventura had to prove that Kyle was lying about the derogatory remarks-in other words, he didn't make them and that Kyle lied about punching him out-Kyle didn't punch Ventura. The story came from Kyle's famous book. The story had to have damaged Jesse's reputation significantly as well.

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In the posted video the technicality was that the money coming from an insurance company came out in the trial.
And, according to Ventura, no person in the trial confirmed Kyle's having hit Ventura.
And, Ventura made it clear that his life had essentially been ruined over this whole matter. In fact he said he can't even go to any SEAL functions now--(at least at the time of the video).

I do remember hearing Kyle stating that he had hit Ventura on a tv show. Maybe O'Reilly's show. It was a surprise to me.

To be fair to Kyle, he never got the chance to defend himself in court. This should have been settled in either the court room or the bar room, but once Kyle was murdered, Tara should never have been drug into the fight. This is where I lost all respect for Jesse.

Just another reason I dump anything Deflave says. Sorry I toggled it to see the vid. Be Well. Rusty

What did I say?

That is precisely why I asked. Now if it's about BRASS BALLS, Hathcock ir Waldron would surely be in the running!

Have you ever actually looked into the points of the case?

Did you listen to the interview?

This thread reminds me of comments like - Trump is a game show or reality show dumbass - I don't like him , ain't never done nuthin except say'you're fired' .

Many need to try and read rather than go with some tv or hearsay crap - CK is a super hero JV should die .

Military.com
Born James George Janos, Jesse Ventura is a multi-faceted celebrity who has written books, served as a governor, acted for cinema, and wrestled professionally. He was born in 1951 in Minneapolis, Minnesota to two World War II veterans. By the time Ventura graduated from high school in 1969, the Vietnam War was underway.

Ventura enlisted into the United States Navy and joined the Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) after graduating from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school. Ventura frequently references his military service in public, and a lawyer from San Diego criticized him for faking his claims of being a SEAL. Although Ventura never completed the extra 26 weeks of training to become a SEAL, the UDTs were broken apart and combined with the SEAL teams after Vietnam. Ventura claims that UDTs simply refer to themselves as SEALs due to the restructuring. Despite his membership with Underwater Demolition Team 12, Ventura never saw combat during Vietnam although he did receive the Vietnam Service Medal.

If Jesse Ventura said those things about the SEALS, he deserves to be ostracized by the SEAL community and he has nobody but himself to blame. If Jesse Ventura said those things about the SEALS, he deserves to be ostracized by the SEAL community and he has nobody but himself to blame.

Here is the thing, you cannot convince me that one Seal in that bar would not come forward to say "yes, I saw Jessie hit the floor" to help out Kyle's wife in the the trial, but in a room full of Seals, not one could come forward and say, "yes I heard Jessie say this, or yes, I saw Kyle punch Jessie?"
Likewise if I am Kyle, why not name Ventura in the book if it happened? I mean if the goal was to tell more books, how could not telling the truth in the book and naming Ventura not help book sales?

Looking in as an outsider with no dog in the fight, I think I have to give the nod to Ventura.