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Florida is a melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere else and they all think it was better where they came from and try and do things here like they did “back home”. They all come here from different states and even countries speaking different tongues and as a local boy it’s saddening to see what parts of Florida have become. Born and raised in Ft. Lauderdale, lived there until 1986 except for a couple of breaks for the Army and college. The summer is deathly hot and humid. In July/August you can walk from an air conditioned house to an air conditioned car and be sweating by the time you get to the car. Most every day the thunderclouds build up over the Glades, move east over the coast, rain like a cow pissing on a flat rock for a half hour, then go away leaving steaming roads and more humidity. You can drain the swamp and build houses but the environmental conditions that made it a swamp for a hundred thousand years are still there. If you live even a few miles inland then you're living in a manicured lawn, strip malled swamp. You never really get used to the heat, you just get where you don't mind sweating. Winter in S. Florida is gorgeous and is why the snowbirds first came and why people move there. The whole outdoors is air conditioned, highs maybe in the 80's but lots of days in the 70's and balmy tropical nights with the moon shining through fluffy cumulus clouds. If you're fortunate to live close to the coast (we lived about 1 mile inland) you get a nice on shore breeze. A cold day is 60 degrees. It does get down a bit colder occasionally, but a light windbreaker is generally all you might need. The biggest problem with south Florida is that it has no soul, or it lost what it had sometime in the early 70's by my reckoning. So many people came from somewhere else, "home" was always somewhere else, never Florida, so people had no connection to it, they didn't treat it like it was something precious where their roots were. Except for my sister, I was one of only about a dozen people I knew who was born there. Utica, NY filled with umpteen generations descended from Irish, Italian and Polish immigrants has a soul, small farming and ranching towns in ID have souls, Skippyville, AL has a soul. Boise did have a soul but it's pretty much completely Californicated away now. Like thousands of other towns and areas across the country, S. Florida used to be a really nice place to live. In the 50's and first part of the 60's it was still old south even though it was never a part of the genuine old south, but close enough. Snowbirds came down and snarled traffic for 5 months each year but they brought lots of money so that was tolerated. Now it's Los Angeles East except the gangs aren't Mexican. Last time I was down there walking through a mall I counted several different languages and variations, Cuban Spanish which is distinctly different from other Spanish, various flavors of "other" Spanish which is different from Cuban, German from tourists, Haitian patois, New Yawk, New Joisey, Canadian and old England English. Can't recall hearing any real southern accents, though. No place in America is like it was. Twin Falls has Muslims. I was planning on moving back to Fruitland, ID when I retired but now I see that the overflow from Boise is even spilling into that area. Old time Boiseans don't like California newcomers. North Carolinians don't like the influx of Floridians moving in to get away from the increasingly crappy areas of SE Florida. The population across the country is only going to get bigger and folks will move away from whatever overcrowded place they live in to find one of the fewer and fewer uncrowded places which is like their home used to be. If you live in a small town or a rural area, savor it as much as you can while you can. Anyway, I think it's nice.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Buy a Boat, live on the coast .
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question for Floridians : why large number of drivers have their car's right signals always on but not turning ? Didn't you just move from California? yes , but been to Florida a few times. did you know Florida is New Yorkers favorite wine ?
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Only in Florida...
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NEWS
Florida ‘doomsday prepper’ couple accused of enslaving and abusing two women
By Sara Dorn July 13, 2019 | 7:40pm
Two women escaped from a Florida farm where they were held captive, forced into hard labor, and physically and sexually abused for years by an unhinged couple preparing for the end of the world, authorities said.
The Wakulla County Sheriff’s office busted Crawfordville husband and wife Mirko Ceska, 58, and Regina Ceska, 55 on Friday, culminating a near-two-week probe that began when the victims escaped the farm, about 20 miles outside of Tallahassee, and alerted police, officials said.
“The females described Mr. and Mrs. Ceska as doomsday preppers,” the sheriff’s office said in a Facebook post on Friday.
“The females stated they had been trained to raise pigs, raise sheep, grow various fruits and vegetables, sheer sheep, utilize a loom, and sew,” the post continues.
The alleged victims — whose identities and ages were not disclosed — told cops they were not allowed to have cellphones or friends. They were also told never to agree, talk to or shake hands with anyone in public.
Disobeying resulted in punishments including starvation, verbal abuse and beatings, the victims said, authorities said.
Mirko Ceska allegedly beat the captives with a metal rod, and one of the victims was bruised on her back and arm when she showed up to the sheriff’s office, authorities said.
He allegedly forced sex acts on his hostages too — “some with the support of Regina Ceska,” according to police, who allegedly found evidence of an Internet search for “incestuous video” on his phone.
Cops also said they discovered a video where Mirko was screaming at the alleged victims within inches of their faces, saying they had stolen food.
The alleged victims escaped the farm on June 28, and reported their alleged tormentors to cops three days later.
Police said they found “large quantities of food rations and survivalist items,” on the property, along with “high quality firearms and many cases of ammunition.” Some of the weapons were hidden behind false walls and a staircase, police said.
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Ok in the “why so many tags” thread.. a bunch of guys said “NEVER AGAIN”... about Florida, and only non-hunters live there.
HUH ? ... I wandered through it once on a work run, but only stopped for key lime pie.
So - what’s wrong with Florida (beyond the crazy as bat chit posts I see of people arrested in Florida that is).
Are you a millennial? You started the thread title with a "so" and led two sentences in your thread with a superfluous "OK" or "So." It's mostly young democrats I see doing that. Do you use a lot of "likes" in the spoken language?
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Admitted snowbird here and January-April is downright tolerable in central Florida. Sweetness owns a place in a small gated community there and we rent our house up north to her accountant which knocks off half the taxes. Our neighbors down there all speak English, but not so when you get outside the gate. Too much traffic with strange driving is often observed and the hour long news casts coming out of Orlando are more than twice as exciting as our half hour boring news back home. A seven foot alligator lives in the pond out back, but then so do the large-mouth bass that I can cast for anytime.There are about 90 other water retention ponds full of fish I can get to on the golf cart. They squirt the bugs and they are worse back up north. Oh there are some NYC types there, but you just learn to avoid them. If you see a Cadillac with a New York licence plate, you had best not step out in front of it because they are more important than anyone else who lives there. They bitch about the cold weather when it gets down into the 60's and I just smile. I keep track of the bird species that I see every year and am always in the 30's just in our neighborhood. The 1,400 mile drive is a pit, but airplanes go there and keeping a car there isn't out of the question as we approach our dotage. So what's not to like?
My other auto is a .45
The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory
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For those of you that don't like Florida,,,,STAY WHERE YOU ARE
Yeah, I'm a Yankee Transplant
But the summers in the Chicago area were no prize either.
Big ass mosquito's
Just as humid as here.
Traffic 23 hours a day
And when the "Hawk" is out, It's so friggin cold, you're nose hairs freeze
Florida since 2006, Live on "The Nature Coast"
Fishing 365 days a year, Nice golf courses,Nice roads to take the bike on.
Rush hour only lasts 30 minutes.
The Gulf is 10 minutes west and big bass lakes are 30 minutes east
Here in Citrus, It's 98% white, if you count the Italians, LOL
Gas is relatively cheap,
Sure the geezers don't know how to drive, but just stay away from shopping centers on Wednesday's {that's when the social security checks come out}
The Ozello Area is absolutely beautiful and a salt water fishermans dream.
SO THERE!
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The Ozello Area is absolutely beautiful and a salt water fishermans dream.
SO THERE!
Thanks a lot, just send them all my way huh?
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Don't worry.
At lest half of them will run off the road into the sawgrass and half of the rest will get carsick on the drive.
Turn them around and send them to Crystal river.
Last edited by fubarguy; 07/14/19.
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Don't worry.
At lest half of them will run off the road into the sawgrass and half of the rest will get carsick on the drive.
Turn them around and send them to Crystal river.
That's funny, but Ozella Trl is the closest thing in FL to a mountain drive....
"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867
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My short list on what is wrong.
Snakes, alligators, crocodiles, leads in shark attacks, bugs galore, sink holes, hurricanes, wild fires, tornados, leads in lighting storms and strikes on humans, to damn hot and humid, full of illegal criminals, full of same sex couples, a easy place for drug smugglers, has to be won by any one wanting to be president.
I know I left some thing out. I remember now, not enough people that think and look like me, LOL
They do have or had some good laws, gun laws, concealed carry, "duty to retreat" went away in favor of "stand your ground" and the "castle doctrine" laws. I also believe if you do take action against a dirt bag that is trying to cause harm and you do not face criminal charges for those actions, you can not be sued in a state civil case for those actions.
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I'm gonna ask DeSantis to put up a sign at the beginning of Ozello Trail:
ATTENTION
ALL OUT OF STATE DRIVERS MUST USE THIS ROAD AT NIGHT
NO HEADLIGHTS ALLOWED
That ought to do it! :
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I was in Biscayne Bay all day.
No complaints.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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So, can we call you Salty now? 
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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So, can we call you Salty now? Long way to go. I don't even have a boat yet!
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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if i lived there i'd be fishing every free moment.
God bless Texas-----------------------
Old 300
I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
Its not how you pick the booger..
but where you put it !!
Roger V Hunter
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My buddy that lives in Venice does pretty good right off the beach. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/MGz0Hvxn/65437735-2295056780587848-3866946162544082944-n.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/D031VZCf/32488086-1709264039167128-1181708110591426560-n.jpg)
God bless Texas-----------------------
Old 300
I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
Its not how you pick the booger..
but where you put it !!
Roger V Hunter
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No boat, that's not right.
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I have a lot of family in Florida (shockingly, none of them are or were in the diamond business...they are either military/retired military or the typical doctor or businessman types) and have had to spend a bit of time in the state. My family lives from Pensacola in the west to Boca and Ft Lauderdale in the east, and I've been across the state many times. Other than the weather, there's nothing about Florida that I have a strong dislike for. Lots of things I actually like. The problem for me is that I despise warm climates. I moved to Montana because I love snow and very cold weather, and even after a pretty rough winter this year I still love the winter weather here. I simply can't function in heat and humidity, and Florida has that for the better part of the year. It's also why I left NYC after living there for 10 years (though I liked NYC winters).
I'll tell you this, though...I'd much rather live in Florida than California, even with the weather problem.
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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