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Bicycles can have all the road they need as long as it's on the right side of the fog line. On the left side of the fog line,.............. Well that's where the food chain ends.
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[quote=Whelenman]If they want to be able to have a right to the road they should have to pay a road tax every year! I'm a rider, Furthermore, being as I'm in CA, Well that sums that up! Now danger of me running into you!
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[quote=Whelenman]If they want to be able to have a right to the road they should have to pay a road tax every year! I'm a rider, Furthermore, being as I'm in CA, Well that sums that up! No danger of me running into you!
I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
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Campfire Ranger
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Looks like the cyclist was heading for the shoulder, but had to cross the highway on-ramp. I loathe the arrogant prixx.
They ride 3 wide with no shoulder.
Fuxx them and their spandex and high heels. It takes less time to pass a group 3 wide than it does to pass a 3 deep. Passing three side by side most certainly does not take less time. Sure the amount of time you're aside a cyclist is less, but it takes a lot more time and movement to move completely into the oncoming traffic lane, and then back into your lane. Back when I rode seriously, it was just common courtesy (as well as just plain faster) for groups to ride in single file when shoulders were narrow or non-existent. Or if riding two-three up, to call out "car back" and get single file. But times and entitlements change... I'll take passing three cyclists one-up in a paceline on a country road over three side by side every day and twice eighteen times on Sundays. Oh, and to anyone complaining about or defending cyclist behavior as shown or described in this thread - this ain't nothing. Spend a few days driving in SF. Literal home to the militant cyclist movement. Still, I can't condone the "rolling coal" behavior either. To quote and expand on our MIA brother Steelhead's saying: "People are f---ers, and they abound." I am not just speaking out of my ass. I have researched this. The larger the group the greater the time advantage to passing side by side cyclists, but the advantage applies to passing 3 side by side as opposed to strung out. This obviously assumes the motorist has to enter the oncoming lane to safely pass the cyclist. Where there's a useable shoulder or a lane wide enough for a motorist to safely share with the cyclist, then single file is best for the motorist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NGdQDEkWCE
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You only pay road taxes because you have licensed an automobile which gives you the right to drive that automobile on the road. You may not hog the road yourself but the majority of the group as a whole does.
The only thing worse than you being on the road is a moped.
I stick to bike trails when I ride a bike, bridel paths when riding horses, trails or motocross tracks when riding dirt bikes etc. now just mostly a four wheeler
to retrieve a deer and a motorcycle for pleasure but you get the idea? Try not to take it personally.
You and several others here don't understand how roads are funded.
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If they want to be able to have a right to the road they should have to pay a road tax every year! I'm a rider, and I do, every time I fuel up. To the tune of about 1500 gallons a year. I'm certainly not the only cyclist in this situation. Furthermore, being as I'm in CA, I probably pay a metric s--t ton more road taxes than you do annually. So as you're not carrying your weight, how about you get off my road? So by that logic, because we have a car that we pay fuel taxes on, I should be able to buy untaxed diesel for my truck and drive it on the roads. Try again... Everyone over 16 yo should be licensed to ride a bike on public roads and pay a regular registration fee to pay for all the infrastructure they demand. Yous sound suspiciously like a big government liberal. I don't demand any infrastructure. I am perfectly happy riding on the roads my taxes built.
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That's fine and dandy that you pay your fuel taxes, but you bicycle freaks want more shoulder width to ride on or special bike paths and think the general public should pay for that too. Thing is, you want more, PAY more. Tax the bicycle. kinda like the gays wanting special rights.
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Bicycles can have all the road they need as long as it's on the right side of the fog line. On the left side of the fog line,.............. Well that's where the food chain ends. The food chain ends and the civil and/or criminal proceedings begin. If your income is commensurate with your intellect, there's probably nothing there for the taking in a civil suit though.
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You only pay road taxes because you have licensed an automobile which gives you the right to drive that automobile on the road. You may not hog the road yourself but the majority of the group as a whole does.
The only thing worse than you being on the road is a moped.
I stick to bike trails when I ride a bike, bridel paths when riding horses, trails or motocross tracks when riding dirt bikes etc. now just mostly a four wheeler
to retrieve a deer and a motorcycle for pleasure but you get the idea? Try not to take it personally.
You and several others here don't understand how roads are funded. Public roads are funded by government. Government is funded by taxes and fees.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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That's fine and dandy that you pay your fuel taxes, but you bicycle freaks want more shoulder width to ride on or special bike paths and think the general public should pay for that too. Thing is, you want more, PAY more. Tax the bicycle. kinda like the gays wanting special rights. I don't really consider the desire not to be run over by a damn idiot on a road that I pay for a special right.
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You only pay road taxes because you have licensed an automobile which gives you the right to drive that automobile on the road. You may not hog the road yourself but the majority of the group as a whole does.
The only thing worse than you being on the road is a moped.
I stick to bike trails when I ride a bike, bridel paths when riding horses, trails or motocross tracks when riding dirt bikes etc. now just mostly a four wheeler
to retrieve a deer and a motorcycle for pleasure but you get the idea? Try not to take it personally.
You and several others here don't understand how roads are funded. Public roads are funded by government. Government is funded by taxes and fees. You seem to have a better grasp than most.
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Paul,
I use the bicycle lanes when riding my KTM.
Does this bother bicyclists typically?
There are so few here most days I've never had a chance to ask one.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Paul,
I use the bicycle lanes when riding my KTM.
Does this bother bicyclists typically?
There are so few here most days I've never had a chance to ask one. It wouldn't bother me one bit if it were done safely.
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It wouldn't bother me one bit if it were done safely.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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When riding a motorcycle a single lane road is divided up into 3 equal parts. Just like that video show an approaching left corner the m/c approaches from the far right into the center then into the left part of the lane and coming out of the corner it’s just the opposite, from the left to center to the right right into where you bicyclists are.
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It wouldn't bother me one bit if it were done safely.
Piss poor motorcycle rider, he only got two bicycles.
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It wouldn't bother me one bit if it were done safely.
Those rude cyclists should have left the rider more real estate. 8 bike widths was not enough for the rider to get around them.
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I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
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That and he was going to slow. Not enough air time on those bicyclist.
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I’ve been waiting for a 2 wheeled speed bump to get whacked by a quad-trac pulling a 60 foot airseeder.
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