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![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/xCjxy5W5/86-E6-CBA6-5-A9-A-4818-87-B7-D38-B0-DBB6244.jpg) With 100” of water a year. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/9X8pvzBY/B07BE650-DE23-4E08-8000-901066B31A6A.jpg) Dog they are mechanically like a anvil I just can’t love them enough to go with one on a dedicated hunting rig 😉😂😂😂😂 Love frud.
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With 100” of water a year.
Dog they are mechanically like a anvil I just can’t love them enough to go with one on a dedicated hunting rig 😉😂😂😂😂
Love frud.
I'm from the same area (Skagit for me, I think you're a little farther south?) and share your opinion of the standard 6x and 10x. Good tough scope, great reticle, but I sure don't love the glass, especially in the cloudy evenings when it's kinda damp and gloomy here on the wet side.
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The standard classics may not have the brightest glass, but their resolution is extremely good, and the ability to handle adverse atmospheric conditions is phenomenal.
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Whatcom County.... north of both of you.... you just gotta get above all that rain and dreariness..... ![[Linked Image]](http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r325/dogdownproductions/Baker2.jpg)
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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Nice country up there josh
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Can’t believe you packed a couch up there though!!! 🤣🤣
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Yeah.... but it was only a love seat..... ![[Linked Image]](http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r325/dogdownproductions/Baker4.jpg)
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. If I went the fixed route S&B would be a must. the camera land exclusive is pretty nice. Fred I know Pat (scenar) loves the 10x S&B and it must be tough to hold up to his abuse. Is that camera land special a 6X? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the $2500 price tag The 6x PMII is a fair bit less than $2500 if that's the one you were referring to(?). I think Fred linked to it. I've used one for a while now and REALLY like it...but I'm a fixed 6 junkie.....
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How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. If I went the fixed route S&B would be a must. the camera land exclusive is pretty nice. Fred I know Pat (scenar) loves the 10x S&B and it must be tough to hold up to his abuse. Is that camera land special a 6X? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the $2500 price tag The 6x PMII is a fair bit less than $2500 if that's the one you were referring to(?). I think Fred linked to it. I've used one for a while now and REALLY like it...but I'm a fixed 6 junkie..... Ya look likec$2000
Ping pong balls for the win.
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Ain’t easy havin pals.
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........
Ya look likec$2000 I'm seeing $1867...?
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Who ya got? I just did a quick search jc.
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Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Follow the link in Fred's post
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Got it, I was talking 10-42, they were $2000.
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Concerning the Schmidt & Bender 6x42 and 10x42 that are on Camera Land's website, I am assuming the "FFP" in the titles refer to First Focal Plane, but these are fixed power scopes.
Am I missing something?
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No - you’re reading it as advertised, and they are fixed power.
S&B refers to these scopes as “First Focal Plane” in their catalogs and in the scope book with the scope.
If the recticle is positioned in the scope ahead of the magnification, whether it moves or not, the scope would “technically” be first focal plane, though most of us wouldn’t call it that.
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My bad Jud, I was talking 6x. I was surprised to see the $1867 price as that's lower than they were initially going for.
I'm not sure if there is some pro/con on FFP in a fixed (or variable) power scope related to something besides reticle size......
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No - you’re reading it as advertised, and they are fixed power.
S&B refers to these scopes as “First Focal Plane” in their catalogs and in the scope book with the scope.
If the recticle is positioned in the scope ahead of the magnification, whether it moves or not, the scope would “technically” be first focal plane, though most of us wouldn’t call it that.
Gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks for that.
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