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I love it when people point out all of the negatives about Texas. Hopefully, this will keep a lot of people away. This^^^^.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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I pay no money. I have, by the grace of God, saved some peoples, or their relatives, eye from disease or injury or just became friends over years of treating their chronic ocular condition.
Often it has resulted in my hunting less than prime or top quality places for many years or i have been restricted only to does or small bucks or only birds and varmints.
Many years ago i often had no place to hunt other than some friends and relatives places in E Texas. Later, i did pay something like $1000 on a place a few years for turkey spring and fall, 4-5 deer with one to be a good buck and one cull, dove, quail, ..
AFAIC we all pay some price for our overpopulation whether to draw a tag or lease quality hunting.
Texas land owners are able to manage their game by cutting predator populations through effective methods. So far not a single Texan has been able to say how much they pay for their lease. i did but i only went in on that because of my brother, my parents owned land in duval county but had to sell it in 2008 to help cover the cost of my mothers cancer treatments. I've lived here my whole life so have enough friends that i always have a place to hunt. that makes me fortunate. people who just move here will takes years to build up a network of friends like that, if they ever do.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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I wish i had a good place to hunt big whitetails.
Concur with Roger. Took me a lot of years and effort to find the places I go now. One of the hardest things is finding an area where all of the landowners stand on their hunters to keep them from shooting young bucks. These were off limits to allow them to continue to grow and also to improve the genetics of the population. Photo credit to one of my friends with a big lens. These are just native deer allowed to grow up to full maturity. No imported genetics and the neighboring ranches have the same rules so when they move around during rut they are not shot. All of the landowners and ranch managers are on the same page and make sure hunters clearly understand the rules.
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My lease is 2000.00 per year. You get in prime South Texas, a lease will cost 6000.00 and up. My piney woods lease was a 1000.00. It varies across the state. Some guys I know hunt 20 miles from me and pay 1200 per year, but no water on that place. We have a big spring fed creek running through our lease.
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I remember a little while ago (I can't find the post) about all the great new pro-gun laws the Texas legislature has just passed. I scanned through them and Michigan has had most of them for years. The only ones I remember is MI has always had open carry and we've been able to keep pistols locked in cars in parking lots of prohibited facilities. Fifteen years ago, my wife and I went on a hiking trip in Ireland on our honeymoon. There were two middle aged sisters on it who had left their husbands in Dublin. They were quite well-to-do. The one's "job" was managing the family trust. They were nice and kept inviting us down to Austin, saying "we have some really nice lakes down there". I responded with we have some nice ones up where we are, too, in fact we call them "Great Lakes". Texans just think the world revolves around them...
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I moved to Texas 38 years ago from Pennsylvania.(about 7 oil booms ago for those in the biz). Was lucky enough to become good friends with a guy who has 100 acres of prime bottomland between Blanco and Johnson City that is overrun with deer, hogs, and turkey. The only time I paid to hunt was when I went back to PA to hunt with Dad and my brother, who leased a small farm in eastern Pa.
Then it turned out the farm in PA was right in the middle of the Marcellus play, and they built a large natural gas pipeline right down the middle of the place, and the widow no longer leases it for hunting...….I think that qualifies as ironic!
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So your saying you can tell a Texan, but you can’t tell em much. They're easy to spot. Always angry and can't figure out a proper tip. The Texan oil field trash in the Bakken also tends to be the most loud and obnoxious, while their big stupid lifted pickups are run off into the ditch after the first snowstorm. Why would there be Texans in the Baaken? We have oilfield trash from all over the country here because there's not enough workers. Why would they be up there? The Permian is 10 times what the Baaken will ever be.
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I wish i had a good place to hunt big whitetails.
Concur with Roger. Took me a lot of years and effort to find the places I go now. One of the hardest things is finding an area where all of the landowners stand on their hunters to keep them from shooting young bucks. These were off limits to allow them to continue to grow and also to improve the genetics of the population. Photo credit to one of my friends with a big lens. These are just native deer allowed to grow up to full maturity. No imported genetics and the neighboring ranches have the same rules so when they move around during rut they are not shot. All of the landowners and ranch managers are on the same page and make sure hunters clearly understand the rules. Nice post and pics!...., this thread was sucking so bad it was starting to remind me taking I-10 across Texas, just a long ways with a lot of nothing... Took damn near 400 posts to get one with some substance! Thanks.............
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It has been very entertaining. Nothing gets the masses here stirred up like Flave's trolling about Texas, and subjects regarding Leupold and the 6.5 Creedmoor.
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So your saying you can tell a Texan, but you can’t tell em much. They're easy to spot. Always angry and can't figure out a proper tip. The Texan oil field trash in the Bakken also tends to be the most loud and obnoxious, while their big stupid lifted pickups are run off into the ditch after the first snowstorm. Why would there be Texans in the Baaken? We have oilfield trash from all over the country here because there's not enough workers. Why would they be up there? The Permian is 10 times what the Baaken will ever be. When the Baaken was booming, there were people from everywhere, even AK.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Did it mention that all beaches and navigable waterways are public Bragging or complaining? because you sure bitch and moan about public land in the western states. Nope. We have four National Forests, lots of ACOE and State Type II public land within an hour of me. I bitch about people that think public places are their sole possession and believe the Federal Government is their savior. "Owning" a river or beach is the same as those gated roads on private property that prohibit sole access to somewhere you have a right to be. So now it is not ok for Texas billionaires to buy hundreds of thousands of acres in Idaho and lock gates that give access to public land that has in the past always been open to the public?
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Four to six thousand dollars a year just to go sit in a box and ground sluce a fugg'n deer?
That's one hellofa lot of fine steak dinners at nice restaurants. Deer meat ain't ever tasted $6,000 good. Those blinds better come with hookers and good whiskey for that much scratch.
I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
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So your saying you can tell a Texan, but you can’t tell em much. They're easy to spot. Always angry and can't figure out a proper tip. The Texan oil field trash in the Bakken also tends to be the most loud and obnoxious, while their big stupid lifted pickups are run off into the ditch after the first snowstorm. Why would there be Texans in the Baaken? We have oilfield trash from all over the country here because there's not enough workers. Why would they be up there? The Permian is 10 times what the Baaken will ever be. When the Baaken was booming, there were people from everywhere, even AK. I find that hard to believe, no offense, that the Baaken was booming while the Permian wasn't?
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Just what i know. Two fellers' employers sent the because of the skills/certs they had, and were needed.
There were so many people from elsewhere, they were spending ND winters in travel trailers. lol
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Texas might be O. K. if it weren't for all the Texans. Still a lot of problems though. Yep, unlike Mi with mosques on every block, rite? We have a lot fewer Muslims than you have Mexicans. Ours work. Who owns your gas stations and 7-11s down there? You may not realize it but there is a healthy population of good hardworking mexicans in Texas and many who contribute greatly in our nations military endeavors with no hx of turning on our forces when engaged with the enemy in the middle east. Lot of folks in the EU felt similar to you and are now changing their mind re their mistake. Good luck. First, have you ever been to Europe or do you just sit in your dark little room watching hate videos? I've been to almost every country in western Europe and they aren't being "overrun" by Muslims. You have hardworking Mexicans; we have hardworking Middle Easterners. I bet that you have a lot more Mexican gangbangers/murderers than we have Muslim terrorists. Many of the Middle Easterners we have are Lebanese Christians (think Danny Thomas, he was from here) and Iraqi Chaldeans, who are also Christians. I don't understand how anyone as well educated as yourself can be so ignorant on so many subjects. 40,000 knife incidents in the past yr. No wonder i just live in my room. Well, ive had relatives visit the schiett hole and relatives native to Sweden scare me away. I guess these are due to the Lebanese Christians, huh? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...cy-record-stabbing-homicides/3470942002/
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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I'll take a hard working mexican over a muslim any day, every day. Agreeing here...😎
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It's cute that you think that's thick. Are you being intentionally dense? Look at the thick dead love grass undrr the buck in the top pic. Its hard to track down a buck in that. Who said i thot that pic was thick? I said you can hunt in that, meaning you can track deer up. I know South Texas brush country. A lot of areas are too thick to crawl through. The Big Thicket country of East Texas i hunt yearly have pleny of places you cant see more than 15-20 -yards, or in new growth pine pine you cant see 5 yards.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Four to six thousand dollars a year just to go sit in a box and ground sluce a fugg'n deer?
That's one hellofa lot of fine steak dinners at nice restaurants. Deer meat ain't ever tasted $6,000 good. Those blinds better come with hookers and good whiskey for that much scratch. Crazy isn't it? I say more power to the landowner for securing the lease money, and good for the hunter who wants to do that. It's always laughable to me that people whine and cry about how and where a guy chooses to hunt. Even though feeder hunting isn't really my cup of tea (I'll do it for Axis deer) I fail to see much difference in hunting over a feeder and sitting in a tree stand over a green field/food plot on 50 acres of ground in the Midwest when it's 5* outside and the deer have nothing else to eat.
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By all accounts the worst part of Minnesoduh is the Twin Cities area.
I challenge anyone to pit that against the least desirable areas of Texas. Can’t say....But, I would put Portland and Seattle as the top 2 shítholes in the US...Most major cities in CA are plug & play before or after The PNW big cities 😎
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I’m glad I got to see Western Europe when I did, before the world flushed their collective toilets and flushed humanshit upon the civilized world. I have family that have been there recently and said they’d never go back, at least not until it’s cleaned up. Now is a good time to explore much of Eastern Europe since they seem to have been smarter about their immigration policies.
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