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It seems if a member of the congregation had to pop a cap then the place of peace thing was already out the window at that point.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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If a CCW, in spite of those rules, saves the day, I don’t see the hierarchy being in a position to squawk.
Easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.
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Guess I can never enter... ya know my hands are lethal weapons.. That you big squeezer?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I never started I had a kid friend who wasn't allowed to drink sweet tea. I figured out at age 8 that mormons were retards. Takes some people their whole life. 
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We must take bold, comprehensive steps to combat gun violence ! So let's make more places gun free zones. What could go wrong ?
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Campfire 'Bwana
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We must take bold, comprehensive steps to combat gun violence ! So let's make more places gun free zones. What could go wrong ?  Look at past mass shootings. What percentage were in gun free zones? Facts don't lie. Those cowards pick easy target rich opportunities, would pick another place if they thought they'd get resistance. They want to create havoc and fear. That atmosphere would be different if the targeted populace started returning fire. Results would be WAY different, IMO. DF
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I think I would carry first and worry about church policy later. I mean, when will it be discovered? Hopefully after the carrier has stopped an active shooter event. Not much to say or do in retaliation for carrying in church after a successful resolution. Mormons are typically unquestioning rule followers. Prohibited means prohibited. P
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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We must take bold, comprehensive steps to combat gun violence ! So let's make more places gun free zones. What could go wrong ? Look at past mass shootings. What percentage were in gun free zones? Facts don't lie. Those cowards pick easy target rich opportunities, would pick another place if they thought they'd get resistance. They want to create havoc and fear. That atmosphere would be different if the targeted populace started returning fire. Results would be WAY different, IMO. DF I'm not real computer savvy......... Otherwise I would have had a sarcasm icon on the end of that.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I'm sure that someone stopping a mass-murderer in an LDS temple would get excommunicated . . . not !
You might be surprised. The Mormon church has been known to turn a blind eye on occasion. Take polygamy for example. They outlawed it a long time ago because congress wouldn't admit Utah as a state until they did. They say they'll excommunicate polygamists but there are lots of them. The church just looks the other way. This is the Utah based church, not one of the fundamental offshoots.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Just adding another 'target-rich' environment... If I was carrying concealed, they'd never know if I had it with me or not... And I WOULD have it with me..
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
Pro-Constitution.
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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Campfire Ranger
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"but I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil"
Seems they are keeping to the theme.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Campfire Kahuna
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Guess I can never enter... ya know my hands are lethal weapons.. That you big squeezer? lmao
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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"but I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil"
Seems they are keeping to the theme. The full context is Mt 5:39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. A slap on the cheek is a serious insult but it's not damaging. It stings but doesn't hurt you. Jesus is saying that if you're insulted, walk away. He isn't talking about self defense.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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We must take bold, comprehensive steps to combat gun violence ! So let's make more places gun free zones. What could go wrong ? Look at past mass shootings. What percentage were in gun free zones? Facts don't lie. Those cowards pick easy target rich opportunities, would pick another place if they thought they'd get resistance. They want to create havoc and fear. That atmosphere would be different if the targeted populace started returning fire. Results would be WAY different, IMO. DF They always hit the soft targets, just as Mandela did when he was hitting churches and schools. Anyone that has been on the tactical side in the military knows how to harden a target.
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What a bunch of hypocrites- - - - - -look up the "Nauvoo Legion" sometime!
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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I'll bet there contributions go way down.
As well as attendance
Gun Owners of America
Escapee's RV Club
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"but I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil"
Seems they are keeping to the theme. He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:6 
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I'm sure that someone stopping a mass-murderer in an LDS temple would get excommunicated . . . not !
You might be surprised. The Mormon church has been known to turn a blind eye on occasion. Take polygamy for example. They outlawed it a long time ago because congress wouldn't admit Utah as a state until they did. They say they'll excommunicate polygamists but there are lots of them. The church just looks the other way. This is the Utah based church, not one of the fundamental offshoots. Ya reckon they consider packing worse than polygamy? Don't think I could afford a second wife, must less a third or a fourth.. Ammo and guns are a LOT cheaper...  DF
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I'm sure that someone stopping a mass-murderer in an LDS temple would get excommunicated . . . not !
You might be surprised. I am thinking excommunicated would be better than shot and dead, or my wife and kids shot and dead. But that's just me.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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