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Are you feeding a well pump, clothes dryer, oven or microwave? Consider your potential load now.
Super nice cabin! Enjoy it for years!
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It cost me $57.00 to go from 100 to 200 amp when I put my panel in at the island shed! To for the money it was a great up grade.
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Back in 1983 we converted the 16 X 32 foot concrete block milk barn on the 100 acres we had just bought into a "temporary" house to live in while we built our permanent home. 30-something years and three remodels later, that original building is the living room and kitchen of a 3000 square foot, 2-story, 4-bedroom house. The 200 amp panel we installed back then is completely full now. Jerry
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I decided to go with the 100 amp panel as this is just a rural cabin. It has 20 spaces and I currently have six circuits that will use a total of 7 spaces. I hope your insurance company does not find out... willfully violating codes (for almost no savings) is not a good move. Checking the internet for code questions and answers shows you have no background to base your decisions on. No insult intended, but you should rethink your move... So what codes would he violate? Service comes in, goes through a 100 amp main, main and panel and circuits not overloaded is the assumption on that. I can see putting a 200 amp main on a 100 amp meter loop, but the other way around...the 100 on 200 gives the ability to add another sub panel later on also. Personally I'd have put the 200 amp panel with a lot of spaces in also. Not enough dollar wise to matter, and I have 2 places with issues right now because they did not go big to start with and will likely have to rebuild the entire meter loops on the poles to get it sorted out.
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Why ask if the power company requires a 200 amp rated meter socket?
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One reason to ask, company will likely refuse to connect to anything less if its their policy. Not code. Policy.
Some company's refuse anything less than 200 amp and 3/0 wire, which is nuts for an outbuilding or such... though such should or could be served by sub panel, but what if you own property and all you want there is a storage shed or such.
In the end though, having more access is generally better, saves headacehs later down the line usually.
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It doesn't look big now, but wait until the grandkids start coming for visits. How about resale to someone who wants to add on? That cabin would be easy to expand. For another $50 to 100, a major part of the addition is already in place.
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Schit.
Hes gonna have to take a window out to fit the panel!
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I decided to go with the 100 amp panel as this is just a rural cabin. It has 20 spaces and I currently have six circuits that will use a total of 7 spaces. I hope your insurance company does not find out... willfully violating codes (for almost no savings) is not a good move. Checking the internet for code questions and answers shows you have no background to base your decisions on. No insult intended, but you should rethink your move... What code am I violating?
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Wood heat is great - until you bugger your back and can't lift a 10lb piece of wood. Then electric sounds pretty darn good. At least have the wiring in place in case you need it later. It might be the difference in whether you can use the cabin in cold weather or not.
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Ask the electric company what the code is.
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The electrical question has been answered. So I'm gonna simply add that I hope you put an overhang over the front deck. Very nice cabin !
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I'll guess the wiring will get done, and that is a nice place, enjoy it for a long time.
By the way, where is it?
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What code am I violating?
None that I am aware of. You are just paying for a 200 amp service and only utilizing 50%.
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The electrical question has been answered. So I'm gonna simply add that I hope you put an overhang over the front deck. Very nice cabin !
You are correct. Question is answered and the panel is in. And yes, the framing for the porch roof is stacked and stickered and will have to wait for next year. The only things in that building that did not come from the property are the footings, foundation, wall sheathing, roof sheathing and trusses. Windows are used, porch is all cedar as well as the siding. I paid $10 for both doors. Low budget getaway. Woodstove is a 1980 Fisher that is rated for 2700 SFT. No well or septic at this point. Footings are sitting on solid limestone about 18" below ground. Average well would run me somewhere in the 14-18K range.
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I found that it was cheaper to buy a 200 amp main than a 125 or a 150. I don't need a 200, but I got one.
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I'll guess the wiring will get done, and that is a nice place, enjoy it for a long time.
By the way, where is it? The tip of the Mitt
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Get the 200, not much difference in price!
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The only difference in a 100 and a 200 amp panel is the main breaker. Generally the higher the amperage of the main breaker the more circuits will be available on the buss bars. Just cause you got them doesn't mean you have to use them.
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Yep, a beautiful cabin, in a very nice area. I would have gotten the 200 amp meter panel, do it once and not again. Don't know about the codes, they are regional. Bigger without a bunch more money is always better.
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