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While I understand and accept what you are saying, the fact of the matter is that the majority of grains in our country are currently laced with 'Glyphosate' based compounds. Whether you realize it or not these are literally poisoning our children at an alarming rate if only for the fact that it's easier to spray and walk away than any other weed prevention method. I'm all for using the latest technology, but when it comes to inflicting lingering pain and suffering upon our children I disagree. Maybe you have a better view of Bayer, Monsanto, etc...but, I have read their decades long approaches to 'profit', and I don't find it acceptible for my children, nor for the children of my countrymen. YMMV.

Do you really trust the EPA to be forthcoming on ANYTHING meaningful when it comes to health..? We already know they lied about global warming how many times? You should know better by now...

If I may, why would you suggest that these eager young student would be allowed to study such, if not paid to study the opposite of such. Eager, young students are usually looking for a payday, or internship with a reputable company. Making a grand expose of a major pharmaceutical company is more akin to exposing the deep state, which leads to many avenues of suicide... or are you not capable of being fruitfully honest..?

i will scare you even more than because you can also plant your crop and spray it anytime before it emerges and it won’t be hurt. Scary stuff huh. Ed k

Just another conspiracy theory not unlike Q Anon with enough tidbits to keep the true believers frothing at the mouth.

Stating beliefs as “matter of fact”, creating terms like “whackocide” and the “it’s for the children” mantra are all sadly out of the leftist playbook and sound entirely too much like the gun grabbers we all despise.

You should know this by now.....

More children will be saved by getting rid of soda pop and giving them good home cooked food than by worrying about round up which has been used for 30 years now. Obesity is a major killer in the USA. Edk

If something will kill a plant, bug or small animal it will kill you too, it just takes a lot longer.

How do the plaintiffs go about proving that their N-H Lymphoma has been caused exclusively by Glyph? There isn't a farmer, rancher, applicator, Gardner, groundskeeper, lawn care worker, landscaper, etc, etc, etc, that doesn't also use dozens of other chemicals. Not to mention gasoline fumes/spillage into small engines, exhaust exposure to gas and diesel powered equipment. Anyone putting any tool into the dirt could be exposed to shallow natural gas, IIRC in ND 52 of 53 counties have "significant" shallow natural gas. So much exposure to so many potential carcinogens.

I'm not on "Monsanto's side", but I'm much more worried about gas station or grocery store "fresh" Spring Rolls than I am about Glyph.

Sir,
I mean this in a good way.

If you actually believe this to be true and want to keep your children absolutely safe,
you should never shop again at any store, roadside stand or any other source of grocery product.
Even canned, frozen or freeze dried food is not acceptable, as you have no control over what went in it.

Hell, at a farmers market full of "organic" everything, how much is REALLY "organic"?
Do you trust your children's life with me telling you "sure, it's only organic here"?
I mean, I can double the price of my product by just telling you it's organic.

You need to produce every morsel that goes into your family's mouth, to be absolutely safe.
So I hope you have some land.

No restaurants either...ever. Not even on birthday's.

Of course, at the absolute safe level, your countrymen's children and the world's are SOL.

Look up shykemic acid pathway. This is an enzymatic process by which plants and microorganisms synthesize some proteins.

Glyphosate interrupts this enzymatic process, which kills the plant. Animals do not have this process to interupt.

Amazing as it is to some, biochemistry differs between animals and plants. What is poison to one can very well be harmless to the other.

I worked for Monsanto a couple of years in the early days of "Roundup". I was a lab technician in the Chocolate Bayou Chemical Plant, where the raw material for Roundup was produced. While we were always instructed to use care when handing anything Roundup related, these precautions were not excessive for "normal" chem lab operations. Basically, I worked with "worse" stuff in my plant career, and while in research. I'm 69 this year, still in good health, so it wan't too bad for me. But I was never careless.

Mike Holmes

And you do love your children, don’t you????

Seems to me that if Round up were really a deadly carcinogen, cancer rates would be through the roof if farmers have been using it since the 1970's. That is not the case. One of my favorite Uncles died of Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma about 6 years ago. The oncologists have no idea what causes it......but ambulance chasing lawyers managed to convince a jury of dumb Americans that Round up does? Sorry, don't buy it.

As to "organic food" that is probably a bigger scam than anything. I've made enough attempts at organic gardening as a backyard gardener to know that it would be next to impossible to do it on a big time agricultural scale. People would starve if they tried it. Chemical fertilizers and bug juice is why farmers are able to produce the staggering amounts that they do now days. Oh and hybridized plants too. What are they supposed to do....scatter chicken crap over those enormous corn fields in the Midwest? Probably not enough fish in the ocean for them to use fish meal. Come on man!

Didn't know we had food fetishists on the Campfire.

My stepdad was in ag chem sales in California from El Centro to Redding for Stauffer and Chevron. He took the time to train me on mixing and using various fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides, and we would go afield on road trips and ground truth things. On a huge, huge scale. Feeding the world scale, actually.

I can make things grow, and I can kill them just as easily. Safely. Those scumbags pandering for Roundup clients should be forced to buy foods not grown using Roundup. They'd starve.

I wish the student body well in all endeavors. Any discoveries made in the classroom are nothing more than a catalyst for further research.

It won't....
The massive adds all stem from California law suit that they awarded a guys family money...as I understand they couldn't prove it wasn't from roundup put couldn't prove it was either....
If roundup caused cancer there would be dead farmers everywhere....I spray 350 gal of concentrate a year..
It's a dig on Monsanto , as they are the forerunner of everything GMO...

Back in about 2008 I watches on span the world food council meeting....it was very interesting....I think you can find it on you tube..
Any way they were beating the GMO drum pretty hard...
One rep ....sounded German maybe....told them there is no more land we are farming all that possible we at current population growth will be out of food in 30 years...you better get used to GMO or starve...we can't feed the world without it...

Clueless!

This topic certainly energizes you fellas!

Problem is however that the subject is far more complex than most realize. It's a mix of chemistry, hydrology, geology, biology and politics. What could go wrong, hey?

Some time after coffee in the morning I'll pass along a few things for consideration...

Non-Hodgkin lymphoma is the most common form of blood cancer, so it's no wonder all the "Roundup lawsuit" ads are focused around that diagnosis.

I bet it ultimately goes the same way as the silicone breast implant lawsuit years ago. Later studies and evidence showed no link. Do you think the plaintiffs and lawyers ever gave the money back?

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