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Turkey 101 is surprising good budget bourbon this
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I am still seeing the Evan Williams single barrel everywhere. What I am not seeing is the Green Label Old Fitzgerald Bottled in Bond that was in the regular bottle. Only way you can get it now is in an over priced fancy decanter and it is hard to come by. Evan Williams 12 year in the red label is one to look for, but it is not cheap.
For those that like Eagle Rare, it is the same exact bourbon as Buffalo Trace, just aged different. I prefer Buffalo Trace and it is priced below $25, but keep bottle of both on hand.
For cheap, the Green Label Heaven Hill is surprisingly good (something about those green labels). Not sure if you can get that outside of Kentucky, but if you can, it is worth a try. I am right here dab smack in the middle of bourbon country. Last year I was getting up early to get in line for the releases and got some good stuff. Weller 12 is good, but almost not 0500 am getting in line good. What getting up that early gets you is a $38 bottle of bourbon that can sell over $150 on the secondary market. This year, I chose to sleep in on those release days. Haven't had any luck with the Pappy Van Winkle lotteries yet.
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Virginia has a pitiful selection of Ryes. I like Rye whisky. I tend to like Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye. Need to find a bottle of their barrel strength. Thistle Finch from Lancaster PA is also not that bad. Just wish they would age it a little longer.
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Has anyone here been able to taste Pappy Van Winkle? The holy grail of bourbons. Curious of your opinion if you have tasted it.
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I had sampled most most of the Van Winkles before they were trendy and sought after by people with more money than sense. Most were pretty good stuff, but certainly not worth the money they draw these days. One of the very old ones had been taken over by the barrel, over aged IMO.
In the pic I linked there's a bottle of Van Winkle Lot B. It is very nice, and bottles trade for over a thousand dollars these days. The price tag on the pictured one was about $55 when it was acquired.
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Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Looks like they dropped the age statement on that one.
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Jefferson's Small Batch for favorite-$33 Wild Turkey 101[always have that one on hand in case of a EMP etc].
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Virginia has a pitiful selection of Ryes. I like Rye whisky. Virginia's ABC has come a long ways and you can order many items and have shipped to your locale. https://www.abc.virginia.gov/
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I live in Bourbon country. It was invented here. But I don't drink it.
The smoothest brown corn based liquor I've ever drank is Royal Canadian Mist blended whiskey.
It's smooth enough to cause you to make a damn fool of yourself if you don't watchit. Figures a lefty would drink a Canadian blended Whiskey. Once again proving they have no taste!
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I started drinking a little bourbon and Whiskey last spring. I drink them straight or neat in a snifter glass. So far I would say that Evan Williams Black is pretty hard to beat for the price. All good whiskey there! Old Crow is another good not so expensive bourbon, their Reserve is even better.
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Buffalo Trace distillery makes many famous and hard to get bourbon brands including Blantons, Eagle Rare, Pappy van Winkle, WL Weller, and George T Stagg. However, they only use very few mash bills so the ingredients of several of them are exactly the same. It is where they are placed in the aging warehouses that determine the flavor profiles and characteristics of the different brands. That bottle of Eagle Rare you were able to find has the exact same juice as Pappy V , but it doesn’t taste the same because it was aged in a portion of the warehouse with different environmental factors affecting it.
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I live in Bourbon country. It was invented here. But I don't drink it.
The smoothest brown corn based liquor I've ever drank is Royal Canadian Mist blended whiskey.
It's smooth enough to cause you to make a damn fool of yourself if you don't watchit. Figures a lefty would drink a Canadian blended Whiskey. Once again proving they have no taste! https://thewhiskeyjug.com/canadian-whiskey/canadian-mist-review/A great review... 45 SHARES Canadian Mist Review I’m struggling to find any redeeming qualities in Canadian Mist. I’m also struggling to figure out why, besides being dirt cheap, this is America’s best selling Canadian Whisky and how in the hell it’s won so many gold medals. I’m flabbergasted at the stark difference between what I’m experiencing and the general consensus of America on this one. Maybe I really am a whisky snob… Made from a blend of grain whisky (corn, rye and malted barley), rye whiskey, a “touch” of sherry that doesn’t seem to do anything at all for this whisky and “matured to taste” in ex-bourbon barrels this whisky is a slow-motion train wreck of cloying notes. The site, and related marketing, leans heavily on lightness in flavor and the whisky’s complete lack of bite as selling points and maybe that’s where the general American public and I diverge. I want bold flavors and aromas with depth, richness and complexity that’s bolstered by complimentary subtle notes that is a pleasure to drink neat despite any bite it might have. I don’t want to lay down hard earned dollars for spineless whisky. CANADIAN MIST INFO Region: Ontario, Canada Distiller: Canadian Mist Age: NAS ABV: 40% Price: $9 (got mine on close-out for $4) CANADIAN MIST REVIEW EYE Yellow caramel NOSE Sickly medicinal and caramel heavy followed by watery butterscotch, waxy candy corn and artificial sweetener run rampant. An astringent, cleaner like, overripe citrus mixes with root beer taffy in the background and a turpentine underpinning holds everything up. PALATE Same medicinal caramel and overripe, cleaner like, citrus blend with some burnt toffee and raw grain. A thick note of raw alcohol and butterscotch limp their way over the palate dragging something oily, dirty and mechanical behind them. BALANCE, BODY & FEEL The sickly medicinal quality knocks this one on it’s side and the sticky syrupy feel and light body make it boring and uneventful, but at least their marketing is 100% accurate. There is absolutely no bite in this dram, it’s like drinking water. FINISH Again that medicinal caramel rears is cloying head and is accompanied by artificial sweetener and a watery maple syrup that lasts for far too long. OVERALL Canadian Mist is among the worst whiskies I have ever tasted. It’s like a borderline rancid bourbon was mixed with a bunch of artificial flavors, put in BPA riddled plastic jugs and left out in the Nevada desert to be eroded by the sun for a year before bottling. Everything smells and tastes young, raw, bleached out and artificial. It’s just not very good. Hell, even the MIST enthusiasts seem to prefer it mixed with something, anything, else and that friends, isn’t exactly what I’d call a good sign. SCORE: 65/100 CANADIAN MIST REVIEW - SCORE BREAKDOWN Nose - 65 Palate - 65 Finish - 65 Balance, Body & Feel - 65 65 Value Let’s put to this way… I wouldn’t even pay $1 for another bottle of Canadian Mist. USER REVIEW 3.19 (21 votes)
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Good info in this thread. I find Buffalo Trace hard to beat, at least so far. I was just at a small tasting a local place had, discovered Old Forester there. Pretty good for the price. I also got talked into a bottle of Blantons. Not sure if I'll continue to collect the horseys or not, lol. For those of you who like Rye, Roknar is one you really should try if you can get your hands on it, much as it kills me to promote anything that comes from the state of minnesota. https://www.farnorthspirits.com/roknar-mn-rye-whiskey
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Buffalo Trace distillery makes many famous and hard to get bourbon brands including Blantons, Eagle Rare, Pappy van Winkle, WL Weller, and George T Stagg. However, they only use very few mash bills so the ingredients of several of them are exactly the same. It is where they are placed in the aging warehouses that determine the flavor profiles and characteristics of the different brands. That bottle of Eagle Rare you were able to find has the exact same juice as Pappy V , but it doesn’t taste the same because it was aged in a portion of the warehouse with different environmental factors affecting it. It's not so simple. Do an internet search on Van Winkle and Stitzel-Weller.
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I really like the Weller and the Buffalo trace Bourbons. Now if you'll notice the Mason jar on the right of East Texas Lawn Mower Gas. It's refined at 90 octane in a stainless sti... I mean refinery. Aged a couple of weeks in a 2 gallon pickle jar with a piece of burnt oak fire wood floating in it. Then filtered through a Mr. Coffee filter with charcoal. Your lawn mower will run great with this fuel.
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Buffalo Trace distillery makes many famous and hard to get bourbon brands including Blantons, Eagle Rare, Pappy van Winkle, WL Weller, and George T Stagg. However, they only use very few mash bills so the ingredients of several of them are exactly the same. It is where they are placed in the aging warehouses that determine the flavor profiles and characteristics of the different brands. That bottle of Eagle Rare you were able to find has the exact same juice as Pappy V , but it doesn’t taste the same because it was aged in a portion of the warehouse with different environmental factors affecting it. Not entirely true. They are subjected to different environmental conditions, but the main difference is Buffalo Trace and Eagle Rare have the same mash bill, but Eagle Rare is aged longer -- either 10 or 17 years, whereas BT doesn't have a defined age statement, and rumor has it that it's aged for around 8 years. Eagle Rare isn't at all the same juice as Pappy. ER and BT come from a typical bourbon corn mash with a low % of rye, whereas Pappy has an entirely different mash bill containing wheat in place of the rye...in addition to Pappy spending a longer time in the barrels.
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To the OP...give Michter's Small Batch, High West American Prairie, and Breckinridge a try.
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Try woodford reserve. Also buffalo trace for a cheaper option.
i have been down the bourbon trail a few times. Expensive doesn't always mean the best tasting.
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