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https://www.mediaite.com/election-2...saudi-arabias-btch-is-not-america-first/

“Acting like Saudi Arabia’s bitch....”

Heh, heh...

Like.

Damn right she's correct.

Another estrogen/emotion based, clueless position on what constitutes REALPOLITIK and our national interests...

Now that we are “energy independent”, remind me, again, what exactly is our interest in Saudi Arabia?? Hell, if anything, having them in a war (that they fight on their OWN) guarantees more sales of US made military equipment.

Tulsi is spot on when it comes to foreign policy.

Hilarious. 😂

I see the left is showing up in droves...

What passes for REALPOLITIK in today's America had put the country 22 Trillion dollars in debt, had us in multiple simmering wars in the Middle East for almost 2 decades,..and has us selling heavy weaponry to Saudi Arabia,...the perpetuators of 9-11.

We live in clown world.

You would have considered Thomas Jefferson a leftist.

One of the very few Democrats I agree with on "some" foreign policy issues. She's the only Dem that would give Trump a run for his money, the democratic elites won't give her a chance though. We need to just stay out of the mid east and let them sort it out. Whomever is in charge in mid east will still sell oil, just keep them all in the mid east and things will be fine for us if we keep out of it.

Let's face it, she bitch slapped Trump and came out on top of the exchange.

Overly simplistic (typical and BTW, I don't disagree with your statement), but you continue to miss my point going on almost 20 years now, but here is a hint: EMPIRE, own it and subjugate all for our own benefit... Be that as it may, what you and the rest of the FP retards (read: RP supporters) is a collapse/interruption of the oil markets (even though we produce our own) would severely degrade our economy (it's called trade). Do a little reading for once and educate yourself. Start with the Anglo-Iranian oil crisis in the early 50s, the Suez Canal crisis and our incessant and STUPID policies of pressuring europe to de-colonize and you might, might just get a hint as to where I'm coming from. But being I'm in a semi-good mood, here's another hint:
PAX BRITANNICA.....

Oil is a worldwide commodity. If Saudi oil is taken off the market, the price will go up, even for US oil consumed in the US. It could even trigger a world wide recession. In the long run, Iran could end up controlling or owning Saudi oil. Iran would then have Western Europe in more of a stranglehold than it does now.

I think what Trump meant is he wants to get sufficient confirmation from Saudi intelligence that he can prove to our enemies that Iran did it (though it's obvious they did) and obviously any military action would have to be coordinated with the Saudis.

Final thoughts:

1. Trump should have listened to Bolton and beat the crap out of Iran when they shot down our drone. Instant he is talking nice to them. If he doesn't respond forcefully now, they will do something worse.

2. Tulsi Gabbard is a lying twit like all the other Demoscum candidates, and doesn't give a (bleep) about what's good for America.

It looks to me like she actually has a couple of good points, fb.

Really odd that Bolton was forced out out just days before this happened. Either Trump knew something was coming and forced out the guy who would push us hardest into a war, or this is the deep state’s pushback for canning Bolton.

2. Tulsi Gabbard is a lying twit like all the other Demoscum candidates, and doesn't give a (bleep) about what's good for America.[/quote]

And would only preside over the policies detrimental to the US instituted by her deep state handlers if she were elected, as did Zero.

That's because the truth isn't complicated. Israel has been trying to get America at war against Iran for decades. Consequently, every thing that happens in the Middle East gets blamed on Iran.

The simple fact is, Saudi Arabia has been conducting a low level extermination in Yemen with American weapons.

Yemen is dirt poor. Saudi Arabia is stinking rich.

The strong are going to dominate the weak in the Middle East and elsewhere. But it makes America a pariah in the eyes of the world to supply weaponry to Saudi Arabia in order for them to destroy their dirt poor next door neighbors.

In a world where America wants respect, it would be clamping down on Saudi Arabia for its actions in Yemen. Not selling them weapons to carry out their carnage.

,...and Iran has nothing to do with any of it. That's just the propaganda machine trying to get America in another war in the Middle East.

The world of the Paulistas is isolationism without consequences.

Let's just say the Saudi Royal Family goes down. Who do you think takes over? You can rest assured it will not be anyone that wants a favorable relationship with Europe or the United States.

The world of reasonable people is against America's perpetual war in the Middle East which accomplishes nothing that benefits America.

If Trump was Israel's or SAs bitch, Iran would already have been whacked.

SA is his bitch and Israel will roll over as such after Iran does, of it's own accord, with Trumps help, of course.

If we blew Iran up the world would think even less of the US.

Let Israel and Saudi get together and go kick Iran’s ass. They could then have “Middle East Peace”, and leave us out of it.

And fence all the “refugees” out of Europe and the US/Canada, and tell those folks to deal with the consequences of their beliefs.

Nobody said I was for perpetual war. Nobody said I agree with the policies that got us there or kept us there. I do not agree with strict isolationism. That is ostrich head in the sand stuff.

And the deep state cabal would be waxing, rather than waining.

Took you long enough to blame the jews ( a very small part of the equation)

A history lesson for you:
1. The US pressured the Brits to get out of that area and let the arabs own/manage the oil
2.The strong are going to dominate the weak? if that is the case, why don't WE own all that oil
3.Yemen is a rathole of islamic kooks, trying to fugg things up in Saudi. if the corrupt saudi monarchy goes tits up guess what we'll have? (hint another post Shah Iran and we fugged that up too)
4. If we want respect we need to stop acting like a bunch of righteous, naive pussies and do what benefits US, but we'll never do that.
5. If you think Iran has nothing to do with any of this, you are more ignorant than I ever imagined.

I can’t read the article due to my ad blocker. Are there pictures of pretty Mrs Tulsi for Bris to look at?

"Isolationism" is a word that is used by the deep state to push back against anyone who doesn't think that the American military should be under the thumb of the deep state and engaged in perpetual war on the deep state's behalf.

Any American citizen who parrots the charge of "isolationism" is an unwitting tool of the deep state,...and is ignorant of the entire situation that led up to the use of the term.

Saudi Arabian Wahhabism is the gold standard for Islamic kookery. Like everything else they do,...they get away with their islamic radicalism because of their oil.

Oh Jeezus let me get another roll of tin foil before I read another post on this thread.

Jorge Shipmate, I must say that your writing style is starting to develop a hint of "Big Stick-esque" ques . . . just sayin'

Tin foil won't help you understand world events.

Bingo!

When Bristoe and TRH are on the same page, then two things come to mind.
1. I'm 100% correct
2. time to pitch out of the fight..
3. The "deep state" is a complete anathema to what I've been fruitlessly trying to explain to the depleted uranium dense crowd here for years.. I bet they don't even know what the word "Pax" means...HINT: it ain't perpetual war...
4. "Bingo" just as smart as the people who play it...

Just remember that reasoning with some people is kinda' like trying to push a log chain up a steep hill. Especially when "The All Knowing" Bristoe is involved.

Every time that I see him spouting diplomacy and foreign policy, I remind myself that this is the same guy who thinks that you repair a bad water line 3 feet at a time.

Anybody who continues to believe that it's wise for America to continue its ridiculous foreign policy in the Middle East has a very peculiar mindset about how they view America.

I've been watching it for a long time,..and the only thing I can come up with is,..America's ability to make war is the only thing that causes such people to take pride in America.

It America stops making war,..those types of people have nothing to point to in order to justify their pride in being an American.

The American government puts a lot of effort in cultivating that perspective in its citizens.

Well said.

Many hide the fallacy of their position by not openly exposing or explaining ghe the tenants of their position.

I could easily have done so in treating patients by just telling them to take my word for it due to my superior intellect which actually was only superior knowledge from being educated about the subject.

It would have been incorrect to indicate they were unable to understand the concepts of a treatment plan due to their lack of IQ.
That position doesnt fly in medical care because it results ultimately in a lack of patients due to lack of patience.

Here are the largest importers of Saudi oil and petroleum products. China and India keep talking about they want a voice in world affairs, here's their chance to spill some blood and earn the right. I'm sure the Saudis would loan them some airfields and seaports for their short term use.
https://tradingeconomics.com/saudi-arabia/exports-by-country

You guys have convinced me. It’s time for another $1 trillion, 20 year, “police action”, over there. Feel free to PM me with some contact info for your teenage sons, and I’ll make sure it gets forwarded to the local Recruiter. I’m sure they (and their mothers) will be happy to volunteer them up to defend the US Constitution, er, freedom, er, America’s sovereignty, ummm, I mean Saudi Arabia’s petro industry....

If you read the preamble to the Constitution, Jorge, you'll notice that Cubans can never be actual Americans. The Constitution can never apply to you, unless your ancestors were living in the Colonies when they sent representatives to Philadelphia. "...Ourselves and our Posterity..." I am almost positive that does not include you.

You have no dog in this fight, according to the law. Feel free to continue to pretend that you are a "real American" though.

I dont know if Iran is guilty or not in this latest attack, but the fact is a disruption of Saudi oil supplies HAS the potential to cripple our economy , and the world economy

that said , Im not so sure if a USA response to this attack at this time wouldnt just escalate the situation..........any serious instability in that region will be the only excuse oil traders will need to take the price of crude to the moon.......

Although I don"t agree with much of what she says, I would still like to
see her boobs.

The Saudi's have always tried to have it both ways, getting us to be their enforcer while at the same time appeasing the religous extremist by acting like they weren't involved. I think Trump is basically calling them out before hand to make it apparent that they aren't sitting idly by and have nothing to do with what's about to happen

There are a couple pretty interesting podcasts with Tulsi on Joe Rogan. You can find them on youtube.

Isn't this kinda like saying the 2nd ammendment only applies to flintlocks and nationsl guard?

Not a whole lot of meat on that bone . . . .

. . . nice azz and legs though!

I have always heard "Cowboys love fat calves!"

How about ours?

Tulsi Gabbard is ineligible for the Oval Office because of her anti-constitutional views on gun ownership. All else is bunk.

https://www.votetulsi.com/node/25028

Tulsi has a consistent record of advocating for sensible gun control. She has long called for reinstating a federal ban on military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, requiring comprehensive pre-purchase background checks, closing the gun-show loophole, and making sure that terrorists are not allowed to buy guns. Tulsi has an F-rating from the NRA, a 0% rating by the Hawaii Rifle Association, and a 100% rating by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She is focused on building bipartisan solutions that can actually be passed into law, rather than using the issue as a partisan political football.

Tulsi is a cosponsor of H.R. 5087, The Assault Weapons Ban of 2018, which would regulate the importation, manufacture, possession, sale or transfer of assault weapons.

Tulsi voted against H.R.38, The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017. This bill amends the federal criminal code to allow individuals to carry a concealed handgun into another state that allows individuals to carry concealed firearms. The bill specifies that a qualified individual who lawfully carries or possesses a concealed handgun in another state is not subject to the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm in a school zone, and may carry or possess the concealed handgun in federally owned lands that are open to the public.

Demonrat Succubus

Not to mention the fact that President Trump is on the RECORD saying ostensibly the same thing that fake warrior-ette said, only he said it five years ago.

The day we stop being the "big player" in the ME, is when China steps in to fill the void.

This is about maintaining US dominance in the world market, not about any one or two little countries in the ME.

Good, let the bodybags start being shipped back to China.

You can't quit reading at the preamble, cousin. you have to read to the end, and include the amendments. They call them amendments because they amend (change or add to) the constitution.

that is all.

I agree with both clauses in that sentence.

Yes, and he said it with 5 draft deferments! That will show her! Damn her for joining the service, anyway!

China is stepping up everywhere and we need to check our backdoor.

Since currency is just paper now, use their oil first.

I had deferments as well. And as far as her service goes, I'm sure it was very arduous...

The above "profundity" makes one wonder if the following food for thought...:
1. Can this moron read or at least comprehend at the level of an imbecile or a moron?
2. Laws on inbreeding with one's immediate family should be enforced more rigidly.

I bet it was harder than Trumps.

Is there any doubt that with any of the presidential candidates from the last election with the exception of Rand Paul that we would already be at war with Iran?

Hes making up for it now, dealing with twits like you, Sickermore.

His job is a lot more dangerous than hers was also. If you dont believe it ask JFK, Lincoln and Reagan.

Have you a clue as to how many attempts have been made on his life or are you just another dumbfughk dimocommie?

Why dont you tell us about your service?

OR Ronald Reagan's (note the correct use of the apostrophe; HINT). Since when has military service been a requirement to hold office? You really should see someone about your TDS and when he wins re-election, I promise you this; I will post every day for a year calling you out just to laugh at you.

Dumbphugks like Sickermore are not a laughing matter, Jorge. They are disgusting.

She's got to say or do something to distinguish herself from the snarling pack of lefty nutjobs. Doesn't change who she really is.

Watch Warren or whoever finally gets the nomination start sidling to the right to appeal to normal people. Right now, the money's coming from the lunatic fringe, so batcrap crazy's the place to be if you're actually in the running.

Tulsi should pose in some plus-size lingerie if she really wants some attention.

Here's a hint for ya Jorge, Trumps works without an apostophe also. Donny Sr didn't serve, Donny Jr didn't serve, Grandpa Fred didn't serve, and Great-Grandpappy Friedrich didn't serve in Germany or the US.

4 generations without serving in the military! Yet another impressive achievement!

sickamore...........we are all still waiting to hear about your many and valiant exploits in the military...........?

Good analysis, it'll be fun watching whoever the nominee is backtracking on all the stupid sh*t they had to say to get the nomination.

The fact that Tulsi is on the sidelines watchnig the competition try to each promise more free sh*t than the other shows just how far the democrats have strayed from mainstream America.

Reparations? Free college for all? Free healthcare for all? Where do they suppose the money comes from?

Fantasy land is where they're at.

OK....ask yourself if you'd like a country whose leadership is comprised of fanatical religious zealots who have vowed to kill ALL people who don't subscribe to their particular religious viewpoints, in possession of a huge portion of the worlds oil supply.......what do you suppose would eventually happen??? I have no love the Saudis, but letting the Ayatollahs take over the entire mideast is just plain stupid....

Nobody cried out for free everything during the obama economy
How does "free everything " work when the prayed for dem-recession hits?

The US was not attacked.
This is Saudi's problem to deal with.
We do not another war!

The USA needs to stop being Saudi Arabia's and Israel's bitch in MENA. In this, I agree with Gabbard.

SA & Israel have enough cash & hardware to defend themselves just fine. But they prefer to use the USA as their cat's paw. Enough.