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My neighbor can over yesterday asking to borrow my torque wrench and boresighter to remount his older glossed VX3 3.5-10x40 on a Browning BAR.
He’d had it mounted on an old Remington 7mag for the last 20 years. Since upgrading to a VX5 scope for his 7mag, he wanted to repurpose the VX3 on his BAR....But, the scopes elevation wouldn’t track...He’d turn the turret up and the crosshairs wouldn’t move, then all of a sudden, it would start creeping up slightly, until he’d run out of elevation.
He sends the scope to Leupold and 1.5 weeks later he’s at my door asking for tools and a boresighter. I’m helping and I see the same issues happening that caused him to send the scope in for repairs...Neighbor is now ultra pissed. I just shrugged and said, “Well you got 20 good years out of it.”
He comes back tonight to tell me he called Leupold today and they said they checked his scope and it was within their specifications for accurate tracking. He asked them what exactly was that supposed to mean, being the turret gets turned but the crosshairs don’t move until he’s almost out of adjustment...The Leupold CS dude said that’s how the scope works...Neighbor is looking at me with disbelief and frustration...
I asked what he said to the guy after that answer. He said I asked who makes a good scope? The Leupold dude said Nightforce. LMFAO!
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My neighbor can over yesterday asking to borrow my torque wrench and boresighter to remount his older glossed VX3 3.5-10x40 on a Browning BAR.
He’d had it mounted on an old Remington 7mag for the last 20 years. Since upgrading to a VX5 scope for his 7mag, he wanted to repurpose the VX3 on his BAR....But, the scopes elevation wouldn’t track...He’d turn the turret up and the crosshairs wouldn’t move, then all of a sudden, it would start creeping up slightly, until he’d run out of elevation.
He sends the scope to Leupold and 1.5 weeks later he’s at my door asking for tools and a boresighter. I’m helping and I see the same issues happening that caused him to send the scope in for repairs...Neighbor is now ultra pissed. I just shrugged and said, “Well you got 20 good years out of it.”
He comes back tonight to tell me he called Leupold today and they said they checked his scope and it was within their specifications for accurate tracking. He asked them what exactly was that supposed to mean, being the turret gets turned but the cross don’t move until he’s almost out of adjustment...The Leupold CS dude said that’s how the scope works...Neighbor is looking at me with disbelief and frustration...
I asked what he said to the guy after that answer. He said I asked who makes a good scope? The Leupold dude said Nightforce. LMFAO!
😎 Oh, that is fu cking funny. I was at the range last friday and 2 Leupold employees were up there shooting. One was testing out a new heavy barreled Savage. He had a nice Leupold VX5 sitting on top. It wouldn't track for chit either. I almost said something, but was nice and kept my comments to myself. Before the guy even shot the rifle, I said that rifle should be a tackdriver. He commented on it being new. I watched as he shot 5 shots into a 3" group. He said, "this ammo is chit"!! He then tried some different ammo and it printed 9" low and 4 inches to the left from the first group. He fired off 3 shots and it looked to be about a 5" group. That kind of inaccuracy was not all attributed to the rifle. The Leupold employee didn't know how to shoot said rifle and it was obvious the scope had some issues. I damned near said, hey do you want me to shoot that rifle for you to see what's going on with it..... The whole thing was quite comical.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Beaver, not sure that you understand what has happened with that scope.
Barrels, actions may tilt a barrel way off center line. Often, the barrel was drilled in such a way that the bore is off center in the barrel or exiting at an angle. Then the only option is for the scope to adjust to that mis alignment. Scopes only have so much adjustment, so you have to go to a scope that has much more adjustment.
I have had one bad leupold in 35 years, and for a production item, that is not a bad track history.
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I have 30 plus Leupold scopes, I have no issues with them. I’ve had to shim a couple, because I didn’t have enough elevation. I have a couple of 99’s I needed to use the Burris offset inserts, because I didn’t have enough windage, I’m sorry your friend is having issues, I’m sure he is frustrated.
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Here we go! It's pile on time! Had a Leopold mounted on a rifle that fell out of a scabbard on a horse and dented the objective bell, damn thing wouldn't track after that. Sent it in and customer service was crap, took 11 days to get it back and the jerks didn't even charge me!
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My neighbor can over yesterday asking to borrow my torque wrench and boresighter to remount his older glossed VX3 3.5-10x40 on a Browning BAR.
He’d had it mounted on an old Remington 7mag for the last 20 years. Since upgrading to a VX5 scope for his 7mag, he wanted to repurpose the VX3 on his BAR....But, the scopes elevation wouldn’t track...He’d turn the turret up and the crosshairs wouldn’t move, then all of a sudden, it would start creeping up slightly, until he’d run out of elevation.
He sends the scope to Leupold and 1.5 weeks later he’s at my door asking for tools and a boresighter. I’m helping and I see the same issues happening that caused him to send the scope in for repairs...Neighbor is now ultra pissed. I just shrugged and said, “Well you got 20 good years out of it.”
He comes back tonight to tell me he called Leupold today and they said they checked his scope and it was within their specifications for accurate tracking. He asked them what exactly was that supposed to mean, being the turret gets turned but the crosshairs don’t move until he’s almost out of adjustment...The Leupold CS dude said that’s how the scope works...Neighbor is looking at me with disbelief and frustration...
I asked what he said to the guy after that answer. He said I asked who makes a good scope? The Leupold dude said Nightforce. LMFAO!
😎 Well based on my own experience with Leupold over a period of many years, i have a problem with the story. For example, about 6 years ago i bought a gun from a friend I didn’t want or need. But it had a nice old 3.5x10 Leupold on it which i did want. I already had 2 others on other guns, but had a need for another. I didn’t like the reticle however and sent it to Leupold for a reticle change for which they wanted $90. A couple weeks later i received a card asking me to call them about my scope, and gave me the work order #. When i did, the tech told me that they had discovered a problem in the scope when they checked it out. And due to the age of the scope they no longer had the needed part to fix it. So they offered to replace the scope with a new one of the Same description as the old one. But if i wanted the reticle change i would still have to pay the difference. So i ended up with a brand new 3.5x10 VX3 for 90 bucks replacing the one that was about 30 years old. As for the dialing issues, we do lots of that in our PA long range only camp. And there has never been a single issue with any of the Leupold scopes with regard to that issue.
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So the elevation adjustment was either sticking or the spring is worn out/broken. Not working acceptably for sure and not acceptable customer service either.
Your neighbor might try running the adjustments on the scope up and down, back and forth, 25 times from end-to-end. Sometimes this is all it takes to redistribute the grease and loosen the spring so that it works well again for another decade. If the spring is somehow broken or truly worn out, then it won't help any. But it is a free fix that seems to limber up about half of the Leupolds I've tried it on.
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I’ve used Leupolds almost exclusively since 1974. Suppose I have 20 or so at this time. Have had zero problems with their rifle scopes.
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Here we go again... Beav you are a chit stirrer.... Leupolds are great I have 132 of them and nary a problemo GFY...
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Well damn! I should have noticed the barrel looked more like a dogs hind leg than a barrel...Laffin.
And that those stupid turrets are only made for appearance purposes and aren’t really supposed to move or adjust a reticle...Laffin at you more.
1.5 MOA of adjustment producing 1/2 MOA of reticle movement is good for you guys? I guess. SMFH 😎
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Don't forget to tap on it with a rock after you turn the dial..... rookies sheesh
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Since you can’t post pics of your hunting endeavors - Maybe you can share your secrets on which dress and purse combo you’re planning on wearing in the field this year for the TN deer opener? Show us something, anything, you know how to operate, aside from your boyfriends ass. 😂🖕🏿🖕🏾🖕🏼😎
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Don't forget to tap on it with a rock after you turn the dial..... rookies sheesh Brother, I was more surprised at what the Loopy CS rep said to my neighbor about the scope being within “their” spec. Holly Shît! That ain’t a spec...That’s just calling turrets that don’t incrementally move, the new normal. 😎
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Don't forget to tap on it with a rock after you turn the dial..... rookies sheesh Brother, I was more surprised at what the Loopy CS rep said to my neighbor about the scope being within “their” spec. Holly Shît! That ain’t a spec...That’s just calling turrets that don’t incrementally move the new normal. 😎 I understand brother Beav.... seems Leupold lives in a fantasy world...... but the fanboys never disappoint. I got into dialing Leupold's back in the day when Big Stick had a you tube video playing fetch with his young son tossing a Leupold 3,5-10 and claiming how tuff they are, well I fell for it and it cost me.
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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It’s all part of the fun if you’re into guns, optics and reloading. I’m losing patience having to climb over rifles to get at the ones I want in the safes...Must sell guns...😬😎
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Well damn! I should have noticed the barrel looked more like a dogs hind leg than a barrel...Laffin.
And that those stupid turrets are only made for appearance purposes and aren’t really supposed to move or adjust a reticle...Laffin at you more.
1.5 MOA of adjustment producing 1/2 MOA of reticle movement is good for you guys? I guess. SMFH 😎 Obviously its good enough for some. The fan boys just dont twist turrets or care about it holding zero. They just blame it on the rifle or the stock warped or some other horse chidt.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Never use a rock on a turret, just a hard whack with your palm will do it!
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Well damn! I should have noticed the barrel looked more like a dogs hind leg than a barrel...Laffin.
And that those stupid turrets are only made for appearance purposes and aren’t really supposed to move or adjust a reticle...Laffin at you more.
1.5 MOA of adjustment producing 1/2 MOA of reticle movement is good for you guys? I guess. SMFH 😎 Obviously its good enough for some. The fan boys just dont twist turrets or care about it holding zero. They just blame it on the rifle or the stock warped or some other horse chidt. Wrong, as usual.
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Don't forget to tap on it with a rock after you turn the dial..... rookies sheesh This works best
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