Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire how can i determine if climate change is real?

i've often wondered.

it's been cold here, down to -5 numerous times. (yes, it'll bust plumbing).

it's been hot here, over a 100 is not that uncommon.

we have tropical storms and hurricanes.

they're both natural and fill aquifers.

should we depend upon scientists?

should we vote on it as a group?

what if it's not real at all?

The climate is changing.


Since the beginning of time that has been a fact.


Whether or not we as humans has anything to do with how it changes is, IMHO, unproven.

Can we be cleaner and more conscientious?


Of course.



Finding a common sense approach seems to be the issue.

And this last one won't embed for me:

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i just don't want to have to pay more special taxes for some useless projects that the politicians have sold me on. no, not sold, but forced me into.

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Climate change is real. Not sure about the warming part. The question is how much man is involved. Or if. Then what to do? Selling and buying carbon credits is a shell game. Mostly it comes down to YOU doing less so I can do more

Then don't vote for the socialist democrats.

"Climate Change Activists" just need to get China, India, Russia, Mexico on board. Only the
good 'ol USA will cough up cash.

i sincerely hope that's an effective solution.

the problem, if there is one, arises when the socialist demos take control, even after so many have voted against them.

climate change on it's face does seem to gather our attention.

but, then the process breaks down.

what's the cause?

do humans have a significant impact?

why can't the scientists, the best of the best, agree?

bottom line, i don't want to be taxed to support another wild goose chase.

Must be fake altogether

Gore and Obama have both recent purchased homes in coastal zones

hope neither of them sumbitches can swim

The idiots in Berkeley and San Jose don’t allow new homes to use natural gas because of climate change and their desire to exercise control of the citizens like Stalin.

I do not believe anyone can tell things like that. For a big enough grant, I'd try.

One thing to keep in mind is that climate “scientists” adjust the temperature measurements to make them support their theory. One scientist looked at the adjustments and found that every adjustment increased the temperatures.

Sunspots


Humans have zero impact.


Scientists were blackmailed into going along with the Communist's lies or else they would lose their grant monies they depend on for salaries.

Al Gore, the Communist, has refused for years to publicly debate the facts that would prove it is all a big lie.

End of story.

As stated previously, it's real, always has been, always will be. As I say, saying "climate change" is as significant as saying "wet water".

Most folks know that Cypress trees grow in damp, swampy climates. Most folks also know that North Dakota is pretty dry and arid.
In Medora ND, at the visitors center for Roosevelt National Park, there's a petrified Cypress stump about 4' in diameter. They estimate it to be over 53 million years old. Long before the first SUVs, long before the first coal fired power plant, long before the first human being walked upright.
For something like a 4' Cypress stump to dry out and petrify like that, the climate had to change much faster than mankind has ever recorded.
The only true constant about the climate is that it is constantly changing. The earth and the sun have ten times more effect on the climate than anything mankind as ever done, or ever will do.
Man Made Global Warming, Climate Change is nothing more than than a global swindle. Its sole purpose is to justify more and more taxes.
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I'm in India & China quite a bit for work. Those places are unbelievably polluted, so polluted that you can barely see the sun on a good day and it inflames your sinuses. I had to go to the doctor after a trip back from China a few months ago because I thought I had the flu, turned out my sinuses were just irritated and I was drooling like the dog from Turner & Hooch.

They're not going to stop doing what they're doing just because some Swedish kid cries on TV and bumps fists with Obama. They've got a billion plus people each and they're gonna do whatever it takes to get a leg up, throttling their economy to clean up the planet is the last thing on their mind. We in the U.S. have environmentally regulated ourselves to the point of diminishing returns, it'll take crushing our economy with silly ideas like outlawing the internal combustion engine to make a minute different in our emissions. If we did that then it wouldn't make one bit of difference with China and India, they'd just laugh as we destroyed our economy and way of life while cranking out even more pollution. We're on the same planet as them and spending ourselves into bankruptcy trying to clean it up isn't going to do a damn thing to make it cleaner with them around.

G-man,

i've often wondered.

It’s what makes you you.


it's been cold here, down to -5 numerous times. (yes, it'll bust plumbing).

Never trust a realtor.


it's been hot here, over a 100 is not that uncommon.

Rejoice, if you have less body hair than your ancestors.



we have tropical storms and hurricanes.

Life without coconuts would be unbearable.


they're both natural and fill aquifers.

Dasani and Aquafina are not real water.


should we depend upon scientists?

Scientists claim rectal thermometers are more accurate.


should we vote on it as a group?

Only if we can do it in person and blindfolded.



what if it's not real at all?

Pronouns without reference should be illegal.

i just hate it when the mass media reports there's mass grouping of individuals all over the globe (except china) that is concerned about global climate change.

if i owned a climate, what would i do in order to make a profit from such ownership?

global outpouring of young humans, what is going on?

i thought the objective was to work at a job and pay taxes?

some people seems to be thinking there's even more needed?