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Still speculating, gotta buy something next year. Prob'ly my last vehicle.

Needs; some moderate off road and towing capability

The $25,000-$30,000 bracket gets me a new lower-end 4WD Tacoma (9" ground clearance/3,000lb towing capacity).

or....

a new lower-end AWD Outback (8" ground clearance/2,700lb towing capacity)....

Can't get around it, gotta have four doors and a back seat. Don't anticipate towing more'n 2,000 lbs (small boat or cargo trailer).

The Tacoma has a 5ft bed, OTOH the Outback also has a pretty generous luggage capacity, especially with the back seats folded. I'd rather leave my stuff locked in back of an Outback than under a cover in the bed of a pickup.

I expect anything badged Toyota to run forever, how do Subarus hold up?

All thoughts appreciated. Given the price of a 4Runner, I was surprised at how inexpensive Outbacks are.


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If it's just your stuff and maybe one other, why can't you put it in the back seat/floor of the Tacoma?


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Subarus have a solid reputation for reliability. Not on par with Toyota's reputation, but good nonetheless. The ride of the two vehicles will be worlds apart. The Tacoma rides like schidt. It is also noisy as hell. The Outback will get appreciably better economy. I use a truck bed often though, so I'd take the Tacoma.

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Originally Posted by RickyD
If it's just your stuff and maybe one other, why can't you put it in the back seat/floor of the Tacoma?


If I took the stuff out of the trunk of my present Corolla and put it in the back seat, my granddaughter's car seat wouldn't fit.

But then among other stuff I roll around with a complete 1835 camp setup in my trunk. If I leave all that stuff in, then none of it is forgotten the next time, and getting ready for reenacting is worse'n a girl getting ready for prom.


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Son is on his second Tacoma. Very useful and reliable vehicle. Between those two, no contest for me, Tacoma.


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I'm on my 6th Tacoma so I may be a little bit biased. The Tacoma back seats fold down to give you a large flat area for "stuff". They now have a locking tailgate also. A hard cover on the bed and you're good to go. I also like being higher up in a truck. I have no experience with the Outback.


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Toyota vs. Subaru?

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Originally Posted by 16bore
Toyota vs. Subaru?

Turn in your man card. Banned for life.


I like girls, me and the other Subaru drivers will have that in common.


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I have had both. Like both, but they are different. If you don't need a truck, you wont be disappointed in the outback.

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Towing capacity of the Taco should be about 6K, not 3K.


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Toyota,.....the answer is always Toyota.

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Depends on if you need a truck or not. Also if you're getting older which one is easier for you to get in and out of.

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Get the outback.
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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by 16bore
Toyota vs. Subaru?

Turn in your man card. Banned for life.


I like girls, me and the other Subaru drivers will have that in common.


Maybe but around here they're sporting a man bun.

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I would get a 4 Runner for the best of both worlds.
You can always pull a small trailer if needed.


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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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Toyota vs. Subaru?

Turn in your man card. Banned for life.


I like girls, me and the other Subaru drivers will have that in common.


Maybe but around here they're sporting a man bun.



Yeah. Just have long hair. Why put it in a bun?


Whats next? The man bonnet?


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher

The Tacoma has a 5ft bed.... .



Mine is 6'.



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i have been eyeballing a forerunner for a long time now. they have all kinds of stuff on them, i think it's the trd pro that gets to me. but, the ones i am looking at are more like 40k and up.
i have a 02 exterra nissan with somewhat offroad tires on it. I am embarrassed where i have taken it.
we call it the dog car, back seats are always down, four dogs like it.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Yeah. Just have long hair. Why put it in a bun?


Whats next? The man bonnet? [/quote]



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