Try the Winchester primers Tex, I had a #Lot of Nosler 280 brass once that had undersize pockets, CCI BR-2 were a no-go! Winchesters slipped right in...
Try the Winchester primers Tex, I had a #Lot of Nosler 280 brass once that had undersize pockets, CCI BR-2 were a no-go! Winchesters slipped right in...
Interesting. I had a lot of Nosler 243 brass and WLR primers would not go in with my Lee priming tool, and had to resort to my RCBS Bench priming tool, and even then it was iffy--I kept expecting a primer to blow...... Fed 210's were slightly easier.
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A friend of mine is a 6mm loonie. He also owns a Hawkeye borescope (with most 6mm's that's a handy tool to have). He's saying his 6mm CM is eroding the throat about as fast as the average 243 burning slow powder. He also claims his 243 AI's are much easier on throats than the 243's, 6mm Rem, 6mm CM's.
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Interesting thread--thought not nearly as interesting as those who chose The 6mm Cartridge decades ago and for some reason believe nothing can ever improve.
Among the interesting things I've "learned" here is the scarcity of 6mm Remington brass is easily solved by making it from .257 Roberts brass--which is perhaps even scarcer than 6mm Remington brass.
Have also discovered that the practically identical 6x47 Lapua is vastly superior to the 6mm Creedmoor.
My experience with 6mms started in 1974 with what turned out to be an essentially new Remington 700 BDL sporter, purchased for $80 from a co-worker who'd gotten it as a gift from an ex-boyfriend. The price included the very good leather sling Remington included with BDL's back then, and all but two rounds of a box of new ammo. Over the years I killed enough stuff from prairie dogs to mule deer with the rifle to know it was VERY accurate--and unlike many hunters back then, also eventually figured out the .243 really would kill deer very well. (Can't remember how many articles I've read saying the .243 was "marginal" for big deer.) Also have had plenty of experience with other .243's over the decades, and it still works great.
Since then have handloaded for and hunted with a bunch of 6mm cartridges, from the 6mm PPC to .240 Weatherby. Have now owned two "affordable" 6mm Creedmoor factory rifles, both of which shot a wide variety of handloads more accurately than any of the .243s I've owned--which have includes some high-end factory and custom .243s The velocities are about the same, which isn't surprising since the powder capacity of .243 and 6mm CM are very similar. So if you're a handloader, why not get a 6mm Creedmoor?
If you're not a handloader, a .243 makes more sense. But if you're probably not reading any of this anyway--unless you just want to complain.
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The wife used a 243 for many years, and I have owned a few. They do indeed work well on deer. The only I did not like about them is they destroy a lot of meat on closer range shot. Even with 100's or 105's. Several deer with the chest soup.
I agree a 6-284 is hard to beat if you love buying barrel’s........ I have had 4 barrel ‘s on the same rifle!!!! Awesome accuracy but just too short of barrel life
Handloading has taught me much how a rifle (gun) works. I find handloading absolutely fascinating.
I bought my first 6mm a few years back so my daughter could call it her own. It is an old early '60s 700 BDL 6mm Rem. The price was about $350. I had no idea how many rounds were shot in it. It did not shoot factory loads all that well.
I hand loaded NBT 95 gr and 80 gr TTSX bullets for it and never looked back. What a fun rifle to shoot. I only have shot it out to 400 yards but it never dissapoints. Year before last my daughter got a Black Bear with that 80gr TTSX.
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243? 243ai? 6mm rem? 6mm ai? 6mm creed? Long distance groundhogs and white tails.
Do you build custom 6mm rem ai on long actions?
6br, I shot an awful lot of roos with that cartridge and found it equal to any task I asked of it.
Basically i wanted something that would preform somewhere around a 22-250, sound near a 223, and not leave me felling like I had been smacked around the head with a pillow all night.
Which makes a big difference when facing a two hour drive back to the chiller in the morning to offload carcases.
added. it also helped that the stumpy little buggers didn't tip over easily on the loading bench.
I have 6mmBR, 243, and 6mmRem reamers, dies, brass, and rifles.
I do the best with 6mmBR.
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Heart says 6mm rem, head says 243. I will have a 6mm-06 before I die.
That seems to be exactly what I am thinking.
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