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Originally Posted by SKane
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General knocking-around type? What's more important to you - compact or bright as possible?
Do you wear glasses?

I would not treat them like beaters. But I’m also not going to baby them. Low light capability is important


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I'll assume from the "PA" moniker that you're not in the Rockies, and your hunting area is not 10,000 acres of wide open ground. Accordingly, I'd recommend a quality 8x32.


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The Sightron Blue Sky 8x32 is also a great low priced binocular that sells for <$200. https://amzn.to/317uQKR
It’s been around a while and for 50%-100% more $ it would have a lot of competition.


That particular Sightron model has way more fans than most, so there's probably a good reason for it. Getting it from Amazon would be about as no-risk as you could get.

I'd also add the Leupold Mojave BX3 8x32 (one model previous to the current one) for your consideration: one could probably find used specimens for $300. I snagged the Cabela's Guide Series version of that one, and I'm still blown away by it.

I've seen good things about the Athlon Midas bins (and have very pleased with an Athlon scope & spotter), but I don't believe they offer it in a 8x32. The Ares line is supposed to be a step-up from the Midas, and they do offer a 8x36. It shows a bit heavier than the Sightron, and it runs $60 over your price limit. Maybe give Doug a call, and see if he could work you a special deal to give one a try. He is the consummate optics enabler, y'know...


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I’d consider anything JG recommends without reservations


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I am wanting to get a smaller set. I currently have Steiner 10x50s. I was thinking Vortex or Nikon.

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If you can get the viper for 300 then that's a different story for vortex, but they are 500ish usually which puts them up against better binos in that category.

If buying new I would get the steiner predator af porros unless you just want roof, which is alright, then I'd buy the best minox deal I could find.

Never know what can pop up used.

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Meopta optika 6 (8 or 10x) retail at $289 or $299. Doug at Cameraland (optic forum’s sponsor) can hook you up.


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Do an eBay search with $300 as your parameter and see what pops up.


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Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Gadget guys.

Need 12’s for this
Need 10’s for this
Need 8’s for this
Need 6’s for this

Lmao.



Guess I'm not a gadget guy - I don't have the 10's in that lineup. whistle

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Dense woods you don’t need glass.


Bull Shït, especially if there are antler restrictions.


Lmao. Put your feeder closer.


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Binoculars change so fast anymore it’s hard to keep up, especially the mid- low price range. And then again, everyone’s eyes are different and what they expect/are able to see in an image differs too.

I would just ask Doug at Cameraland.

If I were looking I’d also browse birdforum.net where you’ll find in depth evaluations of prob’ly every binoc on the market.

Optics4birding was a good reference site in years past but it looks like they ain’t updated since last year, ergo given the rapid change in the binoc market are out of date.
From their website tho the compact 8x32 Optichron Traveller BGA which they recommend caught my eye, discounted to $329.

https://www.optics4birding.com/top10binoculars.aspx

Compact Binos used to be horrible, but now are appearing in the necessary 4:1 objective lens to power ratio.

At this point, ifI was looking, I’d google on em at birdforums.net.


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At $300, Plan “B” would be a pair of 6x30 Yosemite’s AND a a Taurus 32c 9mm, cheap stuff that ain’t junk 🙂


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https://www.amazon.com/Redfield-67605-Rebel-10x42mm-Binocular/dp/B0033C3P9A
Redfield Rebel 10x42. You can get yourself two pair for under $300, and they are damned good binos.

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unfortunately 300 is in between quality levels... not enough better than some 100 to 200 binos... and not into the decent HD models. What happened to all the chinese HD brands touted a few years ago? Things do change fast I guess.

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Originally Posted by kingston
For a little more $ there was a crazy deal on the Steiner Wildlife XP 8x44, <$500

https://www.steiner-optics.com/binoculars/wildlife-xp-8x44

I bought a set just to see the view. You might find someone who got in on that deal who would sell theirs.

I don’t know where you hunt in PA, but in the mountains, my camp is in Warren Co., I’d prefer a 6-7x. That said, I most often use an 8x42 Leica Ultravid HD Plus, because I haven’t been able to score a deal on the 7x42 of the same.

The Sightron Blue Sky 8x32 is also a great low priced binocular that sells for <$200. https://amzn.to/317uQKR
It’s been around a while and for 50%-100% more $ it would have a lot of competition.

The Tract Toric is another option, but pushing $500, if you find a deal.

I’d consider anything JG recommends without reservations,


If we start talking about upping the budget I'd be VERY curious to look at the Kowa Prominar from Doug for $425:
https://cameralandny.com/shop/kowa-...0134-b5d9-00163e9110c0?variation=1666056


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Originally Posted by SockPuppet
Originally Posted by kingston
For a little more $ there was a crazy deal on the Steiner Wildlife XP 8x44, <$500

https://www.steiner-optics.com/binoculars/wildlife-xp-8x44

I bought a set just to see the view. You might find someone who got in on that deal who would sell theirs.

I don’t know where you hunt in PA, but in the mountains, my camp is in Warren Co., I’d prefer a 6-7x. That said, I most often use an 8x42 Leica Ultravid HD Plus, because I haven’t been able to score a deal on the 7x42 of the same.

The Sightron Blue Sky 8x32 is also a great low priced binocular that sells for <$200. https://amzn.to/317uQKR
It’s been around a while and for 50%-100% more $ it would have a lot of competition.

The Tract Toric is another option, but pushing $500, if you find a deal.

I’d consider anything JG recommends without reservations,


If we start talking about upping the budget I'd be VERY curious to look at the Kowa Prominar from Doug for $425:
https://cameralandny.com/shop/kowa-...0134-b5d9-00163e9110c0?variation=1666056




Their new model just came out. I bet you could score a deal on those from Doug

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Binoculars change so fast anymore it’s hard to keep up, especially the mid- low price range. And then again, everyone’s eyes are different and what they expect/are able to see in an image differs too.

I would just ask Doug at Cameraland.

If I were looking I’d also browse birdforum.net where you’ll find in depth evaluations of prob’ly every binoc on the market.

Optics4birding was a good reference site in years past but it looks like they ain’t updated since last year, ergo given the rapid change in the binoc market are out of date.
From their website tho the compact 8x32 Optichron Traveller BGA which they recommend caught my eye, discounted to $329.

https://www.optics4birding.com/top10binoculars.aspx

Compact Binos used to be horrible, but now are appearing in the necessary 4:1 objective lens to power ratio.

At this point, ifI was looking, I’d google on em at birdforums.net.



Very good point. A bird forum is where I found two of my binocular sets. Pentax 8x42 DCF HR II and Swift 8x42 "Ultra Lite". Both excellent glass. This was a few years back, sooo, things do change.

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Originally Posted by TLB2
Meopta has a new HD version for around $300 made in Czech Republic


First thing I would look at- or through, as long as you weren't wanting something more compact.


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Recently got a pair of the Meopta 8X42s through Cameraland and am very happy with them. You can not go wrong by giving Doug a call.


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I've got a pair of NIkon Monarch 3 10x42 that I'll sell to you cheap. No box but strap and case included. Look and perform like brand new. PM me if interested. I'll let them go cheap.

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Good a consensus has been reached.


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Originally Posted by SandBilly
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Dense woods you don’t need glass.


Bull Shït, especially if there are antler restrictions.


Lmao. Put your feeder closer.



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