(That’s what I have in my PayPal)

Used is fine too. Let’s hear some feedback

Vortex Diamondbacks

Nikon something or others.

Wasn’t a fan of them

Bought a pair of Steiners last year from Doug at Cameraland in a hurry after mine were stolen during hunting season. They were about $200 on sale. I’ve been pretty happy so far, lens caps were garbage and got ripped off within the first week of hunting but optically they’re pretty dang good. I’d planned to just use them for the rest of the season and get something better but I haven’t seen the need so far.

All day.

What do you recommend over them?

What size/power do you prefer?

Athlon Midas is on par with Vortex Viper HD, and will run circles around any vortex diamondback.

Nikon.

He's asking the questions, not you 😄

Looking for 8x

Ask JG. He’s the canned hunt expert.

Nikons. Gosh!

What

You think so??

Controversial stuff like this belongs in the Optics forum. We do not need such disturbance in the Campfire forum.

For under $100 I'm really happy with my 6X Leupold BX-1 Yosemite.

Guaranteed.

He's trolling again. Never mind him.

Sightron Bluesky 8x32 and have a Franklin left over.

That’s what you carry?

Meopta has a new HD version for around $300 made in Czech Republic

Get a used pair of Zeiss.

I own them, yes, along with quite a few others.

That’s what you carry?

Depends what I'm doing. Sometimes.

Uh huh

Do you not carry different glasses for different applications?

Why would I need to?

I pack a spotting scope sometimes. It’s not binoculars.

If JG tells me it's raining, I'm packing a raincoat.

Prairies need more magnification. Dense woods require much less. Slope hunting require wide view and more magnification still. Why handicap yourself on one set of glasses?

If JG tells me it’s raining, I’m staying in my shooting house and turning on the TeeVee.

Dense woods you don’t need glass.

Which raincoat? Do you have more than one?

Huhh?

Hogwash...good low power binoculars are an excellent addition to the pack.

Binoculars.

Idk how you guys ever got it done without your gadgets.

Or did you?

Absolutely. When I hunt cottonwood creek bottoms with lots of cover I like to use those 8x42's, Perfect.

8x42's for heavy cover?

Yowser!

6.5x in PA woods are great, especially with the antler restrictions, they're nice to have.

Oh yeah. 10’s won’t cover that. Let’s spend another 600 bucks for cottonwood creek bottom glasses. Lmfao.

Which I know you, your cottonwood creek glasses are Swarovski or Leica. Scratch that 600 buck comment

It's a relative term I guess. Heavy cover for what I'm used to hunting out here in wide open W TX. How about lots of cover but can see 150 yards or so in places?

Wow, the butthurt is rather pathetic. Never knew anyone cared that much about what I personally use.

I don’t care. You’re just a liar.

How so?

10X would be terrible in a laurel bottom or tight timber stand.

Why are you choosing to be a douche out of thin air?

You don’t use that off brand crap. Not when serious anyway. If you own that other junk you recommended you don’t use it on a serious hunt, it may be your wife’s or kids, but you don’t use it.’

No thin air. Call it like I see it and always have.

That’s cool.

I had a pair of 10x40 Zeiss Classics and 10x40 Diamondbacks. Did some side by side with them both mounted on a tripod and low light the Vortex won. Ended up with 8x40 Diamondbacks and am plenty pleased. Certainly don’t mind beating the schit out of them. Then again, I’m OK with 270’s and 30-06’s.

My brother has the early version of the 10x40 Vipers and they are pretty bad ass.

8x are better in the areas I hunt, for me, anyway. Have a set of 6x Yosemite’s for my little one and they are pretty damn impressive for $75!

Your mileage may vary....good luck.

Baloney. I also use Leupold Mojave 8x32's sometimes.....took them to Namibia. I don't feel the need to use 10x50 SV's in closer quarters. YMMV.

That's great. Congrats? What are you taking about though. This is a thread about the best bins under $300...

No [bleep]?

I'm confused then. Why is JG a liar relative to what he's contributed to the thread?

Since you got $$$ in PayPal, you might get more bang for your buck on eBay.

He's a little slow, or drunk.

scottprice.....here 'ya go.

https://www.amazon.com/Athlon-Optic...Midas+8x42&qid=1570676248&sr=8-4

Read it again

Maybe both.

I read the whole thread....

Keep playing your silly games. So stupid.....

What's your beef with JG on this thread. Just say it so the rest of us can read the binocular thread? Why the need for the teenage passive agressiveness?

Glad to

Gadget guys.

Need 12’s for this
Need 10’s for this
Need 8’s for this
Need 6’s for this

Lmao.

You're making yourself look stupid...

I own 6.5's, 8's, 8.5's, 10's, 12's, and 15's. Am I a gadget guy or just JG?

Leupold has some good one but most start at $300. Probably find some older new stock on Ebay.

I have a Pair of Leupold Alpines I got for around $300 about 6 years ago, sale at Bass Pro. 10x42s.

Idk. Sounds like you have a problem.

You gonna sit there and tell me all that glass is needed for a specific type of hunting? You HAVE to have it, right? Can’t get it done without it. [bleep] you.

I don't have any specific suggestions, but having used alpha binos long enough that if my budget was only $300 I'd be looking for something used unless there was some super duper blowout sale somewhere.

I hunt 10 states at random times at random years during random seasons. I hunt for about 3-4 months a year. Each one is a tool for a specific purposeful job. Damn straight. If you wanna wander through some sandhills tracking a buck you don't need much. That wasn't what the thread was about....

I can get it done with much less for sure but you made a damn random beef for no [bleep] reason like a damn child. No need to get cheeky at me. I was minding my own business until I stumbled upon your bullshit.

Your posts reeks of jealousy quite frankly. No other motivation for childish BS....

What different areas do you use the 8’s and the 8.5s for?

Lmao, it must be tricky!

Jealousy of what? Show me..

What the heck kind of things are Alpha?


The local feed store does not carry those!

I'm not scott but bookmarked those binoculars for Christmas. Great reviews, and under 300 bucks.

If it comes in a blister pack from Walmart or Murdoch's, chances are pretty good they're Alphas.

You won't be disappointed.

Promise.

Are you hunting public land in SE NM or Texas private in your oil country. I can show you some spots to check out. I grew up hunting SE NM. I'm watching about 4 bucks over 180" right now in AZ trying to determine which one I want to kill. Couple will go over 190" I reckon. I've been scouting these bucks for 32-35 days.

We killed a 223" last year. I just don't post photos much on here anymore. Let alone because of you wanting them. Sorry.

I will look into those..........ba dum tiss!

Lol

Lol

SB, just angry tonight because now his scrotum teabags the toilet when he sits to pee...He’ll be fine. 😎

Somebody needs to mow more yards to afford better toys is what I’m seeing and binoculars aren’t needed to see this either...😎

I have a pair of the Athlon Midas 8x42. I haven't messed with them much yet but so far they seem nice for the money. The Bushnell Engage and Legend M are also worth a look. I know everybody hates Vortex these days but the Viper HD used to be a go to recommendation for value.
Heres the 8x42 refurb for $300. These are supposedly like new or really close to it.
https://aaoptics.com/REFURBISHED-VIPER-HD-ROOF-PRISM-BINOCULAR-8X42_p_536.html

Have you ever looked through any Athlon optics?

I say this with no binocular experience but own one riflescope of the brand that is uber clear, and just without anything to complain about. It ain't some NcStar or such.

I don't need nor can afford alphas and have several pair of binoculars. The 6x Yosemites are damned handy in the woods. Really. Depending on the type of hunting. If you are sneaking through trying to spot something before it jumps, binos can help. For realz.

I bought the Nikon Monarch 5 and my hunting partner bought the Vortex Diamondbacks. We both like his better. The Nikons are not as clear near the edges and the lens cover absolutely blows. I have had at least 4 pairs on Nikon binoculars in the past and have been pleased with them. Perhaps I just got a bad set, but they are not as good as I expected. Both were 10x, by the way.

Buddy, I probably have better glass than you’ve ever dreamed of. I just don’t need 8 different. I damn sure won’t sit here and try to justify it if I did.

Stretch the budget by <$100 for pair of Nikon Monarch 7s. Not sure what used prices are but the best binoculars for universal use are Monarch HG next stop would be specialized astronomy Nikons for about $6000.

Don’t be shy....Let’s hear about your glass. 😎

It’s been posted plenty. Before 2018. Use the search function.

Not that curious...😎

I would look for a used pair of Pentax DCF WPs in 10x42.

If it was me I'd look for whatever 300 buys in a minox, pentax or steiner porro.

I have 3 sets of binos, pentax sp 8s for elk hunting in timber plus distance, minox hd 10s for coues with steiner 15s on a tripod. I glass distance with the 15s and periodically scan close with the 10s.

Reality is I've glassed animals well past a mile with the 8s, but those are the easy animals in the open... and I've picked out an eyeball at 250 yards in grass that I'd never had seen without the 15s on a tripod.

Get the best glass you can even if it's 300, that won't be vortex. Then learn to glass by doing it, teach your mind to see.

A good glasser will find animals with 25.00 binos and someone uncommitted will struggle with 2500 ones.

Kent

Look through all the glass you were recommended today, then you make the call. Most talk a lot, don’t hunt much. Some are famous for their biscuits, some ain’t.

https://aaoptics.com/Viper-HD_c_140.html

$300 vortex viper 10x40

That's a good price, vortex viper is decent glass. A couple years ago the guys at Cameraland got me into open box Minox BL 10x44 HD for around $300. I'd phone them and see if they have any demo / open box deals.

BigStick

Bull Shït, especially if there are antler restrictions.

CAN YOU GUYS SHUT THE F*** UP AND STAY ON TOPIC. Jesus Christ you’re both embarrassing

For a little more $ there was a crazy deal on the Steiner Wildlife XP 8x44, <$500

https://www.steiner-optics.com/binoculars/wildlife-xp-8x44

I bought a set just to see the view. You might find someone who got in on that deal who would sell theirs.

I don’t know where you hunt in PA, but in the mountains, my camp is in Warren Co., I’d prefer a 6-7x. That said, I most often use an 8x42 Leica Ultravid HD Plus, because I haven’t been able to score a deal on the 7x42 of the same.

The Sightron Blue Sky 8x32 is also a great low priced binocular that sells for <$200. https://amzn.to/317uQKR
It’s been around a while and for 50%-100% more $ it would have a lot of competition.

The Tract Toric is another option, but pushing $500, if you find a deal.

I’d consider anything JG recommends without reservations,

I'm sorry.

scottprice-

General knocking-around type? What's more important to you - compact or bright as possible?
Do you wear glasses?

Yeah, let's get back to the OP's query, dammit!


[Your favorite binocular] SUCKS!




FC

Guess I'm not a gadget guy - I don't have the 10's in that lineup.

Are you channeling your inner blackheart? If so, put it back.

I would not treat them like beaters. But I’m also not going to baby them. Low light capability is important

[Donning my serious hat]

I'll assume from the "PA" moniker that you're not in the Rockies, and your hunting area is not 10,000 acres of wide open ground. Accordingly, I'd recommend a quality 8x32.




That particular Sightron model has way more fans than most, so there's probably a good reason for it. Getting it from Amazon would be about as no-risk as you could get.

I'd also add the Leupold Mojave BX3 8x32 (one model previous to the current one) for your consideration: one could probably find used specimens for $300. I snagged the Cabela's Guide Series version of that one, and I'm still blown away by it.

I've seen good things about the Athlon Midas bins (and have very pleased with an Athlon scope & spotter), but I don't believe they offer it in a 8x32. The Ares line is supposed to be a step-up from the Midas, and they do offer a 8x36. It shows a bit heavier than the Sightron, and it runs $60 over your price limit. Maybe give Doug a call, and see if he could work you a special deal to give one a try. He is the consummate optics enabler, y'know...




+1.


FC

I am wanting to get a smaller set. I currently have Steiner 10x50s. I was thinking Vortex or Nikon.

If you can get the viper for 300 then that's a different story for vortex, but they are 500ish usually which puts them up against better binos in that category.

If buying new I would get the steiner predator af porros unless you just want roof, which is alright, then I'd buy the best minox deal I could find.

Never know what can pop up used.

Kent

Meopta optika 6 (8 or 10x) retail at $289 or $299. Doug at Cameraland (optic forum’s sponsor) can hook you up.

Do an eBay search with $300 as your parameter and see what pops up.

I bet Sandbilly and blackhart could really swap some stories.

Lmao. Put your feeder closer.

Binoculars change so fast anymore it’s hard to keep up, especially the mid- low price range. And then again, everyone’s eyes are different and what they expect/are able to see in an image differs too.

I would just ask Doug at Cameraland.

If I were looking I’d also browse birdforum.net where you’ll find in depth evaluations of prob’ly every binoc on the market.

Optics4birding was a good reference site in years past but it looks like they ain’t updated since last year, ergo given the rapid change in the binoc market are out of date.
From their website tho the compact 8x32 Optichron Traveller BGA which they recommend caught my eye, discounted to $329.

https://www.optics4birding.com/top10binoculars.aspx

Compact Binos used to be horrible, but now are appearing in the necessary 4:1 objective lens to power ratio.

At this point, ifI was looking, I’d google on em at birdforums.net.

At $300, Plan “B” would be a pair of 6x30 Yosemite’s AND a a Taurus 32c 9mm, cheap stuff that ain’t junk 🙂

https://www.amazon.com/Redfield-67605-Rebel-10x42mm-Binocular/dp/B0033C3P9A
Redfield Rebel 10x42. You can get yourself two pair for under $300, and they are damned good binos.

unfortunately 300 is in between quality levels... not enough better than some 100 to 200 binos... and not into the decent HD models. What happened to all the chinese HD brands touted a few years ago? Things do change fast I guess.

Kent

If we start talking about upping the budget I'd be VERY curious to look at the Kowa Prominar from Doug for $425:
https://cameralandny.com/shop/kowa-...0134-b5d9-00163e9110c0?variation=1666056

Their new model just came out. I bet you could score a deal on those from Doug

Very good point. A bird forum is where I found two of my binocular sets. Pentax 8x42 DCF HR II and Swift 8x42 "Ultra Lite". Both excellent glass. This was a few years back, sooo, things do change.

First thing I would look at- or through, as long as you weren't wanting something more compact.

Recently got a pair of the Meopta 8X42s through Cameraland and am very happy with them. You can not go wrong by giving Doug a call.

I've got a pair of NIkon Monarch 3 10x42 that I'll sell to you cheap. No box but strap and case included. Look and perform like brand new. PM me if interested. I'll let them go cheap.

Good a consensus has been reached.

Case closed.

As per usual in an optics thread.

What kind of dickhead would say you don't need glass in dense woods?

Go tell that to any esteemed professional hunter.

Nikon Monarch 5

You don’t have to quite double that 300 bucks. Keep an eye out for a used pair of Zeiss 10x40’s.
They were once the glass all were compared to. Still plenty good. Hasbeen

SB, in case you can’t see from your time-out corner....That’s a buck! 😬😎

Oh come on phuqk face! You own one pair of binos because your dirt poor! Why be so angry at a man because he can provide for his family and hunting activities! What's the real problem here? Somebody fhuqk your old lady because Sandinhercrack can't do it proper? Mix it up a little friend, maybe stop being a ppprick as well and your old lady might not fhuqk around! Happy wife happy life! If all you can give her is a 30 second whine and biotch like a little wuse she's going to have to get that crack filled one way or another! My first guess is your likely imputent

Your lack of manhood and insecurity shines thru like a bright burning light. Boo fhuqking Hooooo, so you only have one pair of bino's. Knowbody gives a phuqk

agreed

scott,

I'd lean 42mm if low(er) light capability is compulsory - particularly in this price range.
Seems the Meopta Optika 8x42 was built to compete at the precise level you're looking.
Based only on experience with other Meopta products – and feedback from others whose opinions I value, Meopta seems to always outperform the given price point it resides.

That oughta be a good one Scott. Lots of good recs here.

I'm not a big fan of Vortex Vipers. I bought the German Minox 10x44 when Doug had it for $300.. I found it superior to my Vortex Viper 10x50's in view, sharpness and ergonomics.

In addition to the sharpness of the glass, I'm talking about little things that make a big difference in usability: like how the eye cups click solidly into place as you raise them up (or down when wearing glasses - with plenty of eye relief); how the diopter won't be easily bumped out of position, leaving you with a fuzzy image; how easily the lenses line up with my eyes so I don't have to jiggle them around, giving me a sharp view all the way out to the edges; how the focus is smoother and not as fast, making it easier to zero in on a target.

Doug told me the sharpness of this Minox is somewhere in between the Vortex Viper and the Vortex Razor - I haven't used the Razors, but from my experience with the Vipers, I believe him.

If you get your hands on the Minox, you REALLY won't be disappointed!

I can’t speak to Meopta bins, but I have their S2 HD spotter relabeled by Cabela’s. The glass is on par with Swarovski glass IMO, and yes, I’ve spent hours looking through Swarovski glass as well.

I can’t imagine their binoculars would suck. I’d go with Skane’s suggestion. 😎

I recently ordered Nikon Monarch 7 8x30 binoculars to be used as saddle bag and 4-wheeler glass.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3BVPZU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


They are okay.


Bino's are kinda like fencing pliers, I like to have 'em in every vehicle.

Keep some chitty Bushnell 10x42's in the SxS.

Old Nikon Monarch 3 10x42's in the feed pickup.

Tract Toric 10x42's in my personal pickup.

Swaro SLC 8x42's stay in the house or the rare chance I actually go hunting they come along.

Snagged some Bushnell Legend L series

I’ve heard good feedback on those.

What size? What made ‘em stand out to you vs the others?


Just curious. Hell, my eyes make optics decisions I can’t even mention in open forums.

FC

Isn't that the truth.

Kowa YF 6x for $100.

Spend the rest on box wine and blow.

That's what I have and I like them quite a bit.

Yes, but at twice the price of what the OP was asking for.

They're $230.

For the Vortex? That's a deal then compared to what I saw. Speaking Vortex specifically. I've not ever looked at Athlon.

Sorry tzone, I was referring to the Midas.

I’m tickled with my 8x42 Meopta Optikas.

I have a set of Steiner 7x50 Marine binoculars that I use more than others. They are a bit bulky but the view is excellent.

I also use a smaller set of Nikon Monarchs in 10x42 that are clear and crisp for longer range viewing.

Probably can’t get hurt on this deal....

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...bx-2-alpine-8x42-binoculars#Post14195678

Made in China.

Followed this thread for some time now.Just purchased Bushnell legend ultra HD M-series 10X42 series for $199.Not a optics snob but I think they will help these old eyes for $$ spent.

Thanks Kingston I think that makes the point as well as anything could.

I used to think like SB but tried some compact 7.5xs one time and it made a believer of me.

Great tips here fellas I marked those Athalons. I have a very nice pair of Vortex 8x42mm but they’re huge and bulky for sitting in a deer stand in tight cover; great for sitting on a western hillside with a tripod. Gonna get me a pair of those Athalons!

Hope everyone has a great weekend,

Efw

I went and bought the cheap vortex 10x42 today. For my needs they will fine.

Nailed it. I’m dirt poor.

Should have said binoculars, my scope would suffice.

Don’t give me that bullshit that I wouldn’t know what I was looking at through my scope, it could be human. Save it.

I’d still have my only one tho.

HuntressSB, In case you missed iit, I'm looking at Bino/RF all in one units. What would you recommend?

Ask the guide you pay. I haven’t seen any money yet.

Going fishing. Have fun.

I am the guide, remember?

Oh, I almost forgot......after going back through this thread I'd like to congratulate you on making a complete fool of yourself. Haven't seen a grown man pull one off like that since Steelhead went 5th grade girls slumber party on us.

I've got about 10 different fishing rods and reels you could borrow.

I use one fishing pole for everything, I have not caught a fish in years but by golly I'm not some gear bitch!

I understand boomer.....I've got one lure. A man has to be freaking retarded to think he needs more.

I think a man has to be freaking retarded not to go watch birds, but that’s just me 🙂

N E ways, a pair of Eagle Optics 8x32’s rides in my car, but my Swift Audubon 8.5x44 ED porros are my hawk watch binos. They were $500 in their day, present ones are $400 but I dunno if the lenses are as good.

Ziess monocular; light, compact and easy to carry around. Great optics.


https://www.dccameras.com.au/carl-z...1eaY5QIVyxErCh0k0gDNEAQYAyABEgJ6svD_BwE.

Jeff_O-type obtuseness on display here. Congrats - it's a grueling feat to reach that summit.

Scoping... reminds me of an elk hunt where there was three hunters for two of us to take out. Plan was to ambush the elk coming out of a huge meadow, we weren't the only ones. 4 or 5 other groups were spread out around the edges. Not my way to hunt elk, more like dove hunting, but it's what they wanted to do. I met my hunter for the first time that morning in the dark, my plan was to hike into a big pond and wait till light.

My hunter was a nice guy, hadn't hunted much and his first elk hunt, small talked waiting for light.

I've got my 15s set up on the tripod and it starts getting grey. It gets lighter and the elk start moving. None are moving our way yet but headed towards our other hunters and more groups. There was a group of bulls a half mile out headed to all those hunters, we were the only ones at our location, I'm saying, 'they might hit those hunters and turn back to us'.

I'm locked on them and calling play by play... 'there's 6 bulls, 2 are decent 6s, 1 is broken on the left, they are headed for our guys, I can see our hunters and there's another group of hunters to their left and another over there, ect...

The guy say's, I can see our group and yep there's another, and the others... I can't see the elk very well it's too far... I glance over and he's scoping to see...

WHOA!!!!... I grab his barrel and jerk it up... he say's 'what the hell'... I ask, 'don't you have binos'? He say's yes and pulls out of his front pocket foldup tascos, but I can see better out of my scope. Now this guy had a brand new truck with a brand new side x side that never got unloaded, but had walmart tascos he probably used at football games.

What's the big deal?

You saw all those hunters... and they can see us... if they were looking at us while you were scoping them, they may come over and whoop our ass... and we would deserve it... I hiked him out.

One of our hunters killed a 4pt from that group of elk, I got my hunter an elk that afternoon in a hole of mine in the forest away from other hunters, our last hunter killed a 6 out of the meadow the next morning.

Kent

It's been probably 10 years since I've researched binos seriously, but here's some observations from seeing the younger hunters buying and selling, always changing it seems. Optics are a big deal for us coues hunters and it's a good testing ground for the good, bad and great.

Vortex has a big following but I see some inconsistencies with their owners. A few years ago the 12x50 razors were all the rage for tripod glassing... had to have them, sell the swaros buy the razor. And then a bunch were back up for sale in the classifieds. I asked my young buddy that had to have them why he then put them up for sale?... well I just want to find something different... no one actually bad mouths them as they want their money back in resale, but they sure sell a bunch of used ones... to buy the latest swaros.

Lots of binos in the classifieds on the local coues deer site, why do they use Vortex quality to compare to their less expensive bino... here's an exert from a recent add, it's the norm and the same comparisons were used in this thread...

'Newest model Cabela’s Euro Instinct HD binoculars less than a year old. They are the 10x42 model and made by Meopta. I love these binos but bought some Swaro SLCs and no longer need them. The glass quality, in my opinion, is better than my Vortex Razors.'

For each model vortex there is a less expensive alternative, hundreds less, at least in the eyes of those that bought them.

On the other hand, Chinese Zen ray... they were really pushed as HD, less expensive, great binos for the price, comparable to the high enders, on and on... Ton of people bought them because of the hype. What happened? they are gone now, along with some others.

I would be careful buying new company binos because of hype... Vortex would be a better bet in that case.

Binos are getting like computers and cell phones... the newest latest must haves and 6 months later it's another direction. I'm glad I'm to old to want to change what I have, I'm way behind the times and worthless in what's the fads now.

Kent

Has Bushnell ever won best of anything in a price class?

Probably the 29.99 scope/bino class...

Kent

Are you truly serious?

Optics have just plain improved. Two things I found is that dielectric coatings have made roofs palatable to me as far as brightness goes -and like you have been leaving my bigger 8x42's at home in favor of the Zen Ray 8x32's. The second thing might be that my eyes are now years older so maybe the larger exit pupil is less of a factor.

For some silly reason- and this forum maybe- I am always interested in something new. Just have yet to find the ZR's lacking in any way to justify a new toy. Easy to tote, good adjustments, view and brightness all are just working for me.

LRTSi.

Nikon Monarchs are pretty good

Him and Ringman could have some stellar optics chats....

Beating Nightforce?

At the price I paid, I would not have been able to get a Nightforce. Elites have always been pretty competitive IMO. But, I digress from the topic at hand, the ultimate $300 binocular.

I've never found riflesopes to be that handy at scanning around in the brush for critters....

Lol, I don’t glass people with a scoped rifle. I didn’t say I did, I just expected one of you to come back with that crap.

Maybe someone will manufacture a range finder that tells you what binoculars you should be using!

KACHING!

Thing is, you really don't know if there's a person in the brush or not. Hence scanning with a rifle mounted optic is stupid chit man.



ChaaaaChing.


Ohhh, I originally got that gif thinking of Trystan... No offense intended.

Leupold Yosemitie's are exceptional for the price

Please tell us what class your Bushnell scope wins.

The $650-700 dialing class. It's an excellent scope.


Ohhh, I'd be remiss if I didn't quote grandpa, "Who's we, you got a mouse in your pocket?"

Nikon

HAHAHAHA!

The day I let someone advise me of something being the best For anything, and the answer is Bushnell, I know I’m probably at the campfire.

TFF!

Come on, justify the scanning the brush with your riflescope. Ringbilly?

$50 classes ? Interesting.

Huntress, you are long past due to remove your head from your anus. Use the search forum here, if it's not too advanced for you, and plug in Bushnell LRHS/LRTS.

WTF are you talking about? Idgaf actually. If you wish to name a better scope for the money do so. All ears.

If you ever get off your canned, private land crap, talk
To me. Until you hunt public, stfu.

Yes, I hunt private land in TX. Please explain to me and the rest of the 'fire why that is canned hunting in your pea sized brain.

Did I say I scan it? We were talking dense brush.

You can’t make it out from your feeder? 50 yards ain’t that far!

Private land is a canned hunt? WTF is that about?

Canned as needing a guide? Can’t do it on your own? That’s crap to me. You keep telling yourself different.

There are no guides, period. Not sure where you get that idea.

I'd love to hear his hunting style location, and gear since he is so critical of others. Doesn't he live in Texas now?

He will be a chicken [bleep]....

So agro... It might be time to start masturbating more, lots more.

Hahaha.

It’s easy, you need 6 binoculars first and foremost, lmao.

Greg, he's pissed because he hunts leftovers in NM, and me and my buds hunt private land TX, WITHOUT GUIDES, and he doesn't. It is a very simple arrangement we have with the landowner. We pay for access, LO lets us hunt. That's it, not guides, feeders, agriculture, nothing but sandy mesquite pasture with shinnery. He hunts public land NM with the rest of the wetbacks and he's pissed about it.

Gees.... Don't go letting the rest of the world think that there is abundant public hunting in Texas along with literally beaucoups of acres of private non-fenced typical ranch style hunting with no guides like you find in other parts of the country. Folks will be flocking here in droves pestering every rancher who exists.

It's not a need. It's maximizing...

If you don't get that you sincerely have zero clue and I mean zero.

Then the huntress moved to TX and immediately started crying and whining about the cost to hunt does in Texas.

Oh I get it. I've hunted both sides of the states, a lot. It's hilarious ..

That a fact? My game will meet or beat anything you’ve ever killed, and you fuvking know it. All on public, while I pay 50.00 and you pay thousands.

Some guys just use their rifle scope. They say its simpler.

Some guys never kill anything but a dink, they need to see it, that ain’t my fault.

I hunt from 14k to 2k every year. From truck camps to backpack hunts. If you can't see the need for numerous optics, quit being a poser. I haven't even talked spotters yet...

Keep posting. This is awesome...

Nothing makes my blood boil like some fücking ãsshole glassing me with his rifle scope.

Post some pics big guy. Not your eye doctor's...

I was serious about the self abuse.

Feeder? You don't have a clue. I've never seen one.

It's been shown the utility of using a binocular in brush. You say you use a riflescope for the same. You are really coming off like a dipchit. So, what do you do, just bust through, kick them out and then use optics? Have you ever hunted deer in the woods?

Is that a fact? Post up your big mulies, then Greg and I will post one each, and we'll see who's lying. You seem to know lots about my hunting methods.....what do I pay for access to mule deer ground?

One of those bets where the loser never comes back? Those type pics?

Nah....

I don't want you to go. There is no loser. Big bucks can be killed anywhere at anytime. Most of the time luck.

Talk optics first, or buck pics. Your call ...

That’s what I thought. [bleep] you, Im done, for now...

I've got Dr jag's big buck pic on my phone......he won't be able to use that one.

What you thought? Laffin'....

I agree.

There's a term for those who are so stupid, they do not realize how incompetent and stupid the actually are. I think SBHuntress is the case study.

He doesn't even deserve big buck pics actually...

What bins do you run Sandbilly?

It's all you've got, buttercup.

The following is not suggesting that SandBilly’s angst isn’t misplaced in this thread, but there’s a sizable industry in Texas depicting hunting as an ala carte affair, both ‘high’ and ‘low’ fence. There’s a culture there that seems to recognize game as belonging to the landowner. There’s at least a strong implication in practice. Any implication that game belongs to the landowner radically deviates from much of the rest of the country, where game laws were largely shaped as reaction to pre-revolution colonialism. Wild game was no longer to be the exclusive domain of the crown and would belong to the people.

And SB thinks the rest of the country is exactly like his backyard - which apparently he's never left.

You at the game?

Waiting for big buck pics or optics details from the SandBilly since where he hunts he needs a single pair, which tells great detail about the hunting he doesn't do....

Just a small sample....

I hear you kingston. I will be the first in line to denounce canned hunts, unfair practices, small HF enclosures where "hunts" are conducted, etc. Texas has it's fair share, and there's no denying that. Fact is lots of other States have them too. I absolutely hate and do not play the paying by the inch, size, pick one out and we'll go shoot it type hunting, but it is legal, and some people do partake, and that's fine by me too. Just call it what it is. The landowners do own the non-native exotics though, in this State, right or wrong that's the law. We are obviously unique in that over 95% is private ground, and if you gain access you stand the chance to have a great time in spite of the circumstances. The BIG advantage to it all is that it keeps the trash out, and there's plenty of that, and I LOVE that aspect of it.

I literally intended to avoid this $300 binocular thread from the get go. Like a moth to the flame...

That's the one that would have sent SB to his playroom, to curl up in a fetal position in the corner.

No sir. I really wanted to hear Booger McFarland call the game.

This is one I hope to kill in a few weeks with a really good chance of doing so.

Been watching him for a bit. He's an old, old buck. All public land. Fair chase. Tons of time. Will blow your [bleep] mind .

This is one state in the last calendar year. I'll keep going for a looooong time. Talk optics....

Sand Billy is probably trying to figure out who and how they so successfully photo-shopped the high fence out of the picture. Even though it appears to maybe be an Arizona picture.

He's an image of what he reads and believes.

Hey kingston, the big problem with SB's rant is that he KNOWS he full of crap calling my place canned, and guided. Yet he continues to lie about it, painting a 100% false scenario. It's an indictment on his character. It is 65000 acres, low fenced, a place where these sportsmen you described in your scenario who have this perception of hunting private ground TX, could spend a week here and likely never lay eyes on a mule deer buck, or maybe any deer at all.

Jesus, that buck makes me want to curl up in the fetal position and suck my thumb.

What a beast.

Exotics bought and bred would be property, just like livestock. The issue is charging a graduated trophy fee or being limited by a land owner as to what quality wild game one is ‘allowed’ to shoot. Then there’s the tag-along ‘guide’ who’s there to throttle and cashier your hunt. The whole thing just feels super cheap and, from my perspective as an outsider who’s “hunted” Texas, it’s pertnear pervasive.

Alas, we digress.

Back to budget optics...

You’re a [bleep] moron. Stfu before you hurt yourself.

Obviously not Greg’s buck. Badass buck, tho. What it score?

Stop it, already. Quit acting like you do something special. You’re fake.

This sounds totally legit and real and fun. I didn’t intend to disparage your very real experience—not in any way.

You know you're a chronic liar. Deal with it. Where's your pics huntress?

If this image doesn’t inspire a little therapeutic onanism...

You’ve seen em. Quit acting like you haven’t.

Reminds me, tho, ive never seen yours?

Ya think? I was quite proud of the 160 buck I killed last week.....


Off for some alone Tinman time...

Greg, what did it score?

Didn't take it that way kingston, at all. You're one of the good ones, and I bet you and I would agree on 99% of this TX hunting stuff.

You tell us, given all these monsters you've killed.



What's your guess on this one huntress? Is this fantasy land too?

I thought that you were going away and that you were taking your rifle scope with you......

Show me pictures when they’re on the ground guide.

Freak show. Added to the s-bank.

Saw Dr Jag's monster, not any of yours.


Based on this little jewel, I'll bet you $1000 you haven't. Post up your biggest muley and Put your money where you're lying mouth is.

Don't be dumb....

This one's a baby...

Another baby...

Another 190" baby...

Pentax DCF SP 8x43 or 8x32 are both great glass for the $ and can be had reasonably here on the classifieds from time to time.

Unworthy!

Really big baby. He's a 170" dink...

These are the stuff I have on my phone.

130"+ coues deer?

Laffin here..........the huntress sprinted away from his computer faster than Usain Bolt crossed the finish line.

Doesn't even make the cut this year, drop beam buck...

About a 115" coues buck. He's got a split at the end of his main beam you can't see. Three extras on his left you don't see. If some dudes can shoot, he might get killed in a few days (love you Clint and Jud)...grin...

Just a small sample...

Laffing.

So you want to put up one of your canned hunt, juiced up [bleep] deer, against one of my public land deer.

LMFAO! [bleep] you canned man, you’re [bleep] stupid!

Could have easily killed that buck, but I didn't have a tag after killing a 37' buck a few days earlier.

Is there a bunch of estrogen filled teenagers on here? Lol

Now it's canned, and juiced.......

You made the comment, not me. It's very apparent to anyone who can read that it's YOUR claim, not mine. If you keep posting tonight you'll make yourself look even more pathetic than you did a few nights ago, if you haven't already.

I really like that one!!! Grin

I know what you are, and what type hunter you are.

If they don’t, that’s not my problem.

This is SandBilly going full retard ^^^^^^^Buckle up, sit up, and watch what’s coming your way huntress...We’ll all wait while you try and googlefu up some pictures to back your mouth. 😎

Is this when you go crying to your mom for reassurance that you’re a big boy? LMFAO 😂😎

Huntress is an example of what happens when you mix lots of booze and minimal IQ. If it's not lot's of booze then he's simply dumber than a box of hammer handles.

God damn uncle Johnny, I just pissed a little!!!! Haha 😂😂

Funny CHIT how a $300 question for binos has turned into this Pi$$en match.

Tag...
Curious how SB is doing on his 12 Step program....😬😎

Woah wtf, is that Ringman?

Nope, that's Sandbilly!

Man, you called that one early. Impressive.

Well heck here you go.

On sale $300 Steiner 10x42s.


https://cameralandny.com/shop/tags/...ecd2826?variation=2024552&query=2024

26/month warranty , no thanks

long thread

Furb all charted his pants and cleared everyone out.

I have the zen ray ED's and they are great. I needed a new pair for my son so I bought these Brunton's on sale http://www.botach.com/brunton-f-xn85...inocular-camo/

I am really pleased with the Bruntons and they are really a clear and crisp bino. I think they may be a little better than my Zen Rays but I haven't sat in a stand for hours with them yet.

BTW these were listed in another thread for post season deals.

I know where there may be a $250 pair of Leupold binos that are free. My neighbor left them at 10,000ft in the woods. Going to see if they are still there in a few weeks when out on the elk hunt. If they are will report on how they held up since they are not in the case.

Brunton is no longer in the optics biz and Zen Ray is no longer in any biz so hopefully anybody buying any of those wares gets them really, really, really cheap.

If I could find some Brutons in a package deal with a 1975 Craftsman snowblower I'd be tickled....

Wouldn't we all...

Anyone seen Sandbilly?


I hope he's not out glassing stuff with his riflescope.

He’s looking at YOU 😳😬😜

Will they work in Africa or just in Amerka?