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A rifle scope made in China is an easy pass
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Looky looky⬆️. Not China, Myanmar, aka Burma to us geezers.
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Did a bit of snooping. Vanguard has been in business for 30 years; does all their engineering and manufacture in house in Myanmar. Appears scopes are a newish endeavor for them. Reviews seem scarce and mixed.
In general, I'm suspicious of "feature rich" stuff at moderate prices. That said, if Doug looks at them and says they appear okay, I might take a swing at one, but I'm not in the market now, and there are a number of items that have my attention and have a track record.
Cabelas, Gander (in PA), Amazon, and OpticsPlanet carry some of their stuff. My understanding is that they do not OEM the manufacturing out as they own their own factory which gives them total quality control ability
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Pretty good documentary on the Burma Road construction during WW2 on Amazon or Netflix . Ain't nothing a bunch of skinny jean wearing Xgender creampuffs would pull off.
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Pretty good documentary on the Burma Road construction during WW2 on Amazon or Netflix . Ain't nothing a bunch of skinny jean wearing Xgender creampuffs would pull off. Yup, picks and shovels ain't their "thing".
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I am intrigued by this one: Endeavor RS VII 1744DS556 1-7x44 Rifle Scope, 30 mm, Illuminated, Dispatch Tactical
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I am intrigued by this one: Endeavor RS VII 1744DS556 1-7x44 Rifle Scope, 30 mm, Illuminated, Dispatch Tactical Be interesting if you'd post on Korean hunting opportunities sometime, if that's even a thing now. I've seen it depicted in movies about the period of Japanese occupation and other, earlier times.
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I am intrigued by this one: Endeavor RS VII 1744DS556 1-7x44 Rifle Scope, 30 mm, Illuminated, Dispatch Tactical Be interesting if you'd post on Korean hunting opportunities sometime, if that's even a thing now. I've seen it depicted in movies about the period of Japanese occupation and other, earlier times. I'm only in Korea for another 6 months. I haven't even worried about looking into the hunting or shooting in Korea.
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I am intrigued by this one: Endeavor RS VII 1744DS556 1-7x44 Rifle Scope, 30 mm, Illuminated, Dispatch Tactical Be interesting if you'd post on Korean hunting opportunities sometime, if that's even a thing now. I've seen it depicted in movies about the period of Japanese occupation and other, earlier times. I'm only in Korea for another 6 months. I haven't even worried about looking into the hunting or shooting in Korea. Godspeed!
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I am intrigued by this one: Endeavor RS VII 1744DS556 1-7x44 Rifle Scope, 30 mm, Illuminated, Dispatch Tactical Be interesting if you'd post on Korean hunting opportunities sometime, if that's even a thing now. I've seen it depicted in movies about the period of Japanese occupation and other, earlier times. I'm only in Korea for another 6 months. I haven't even worried about looking into the hunting or shooting in Korea. Godspeed! It CAN NOT come soon enough!!
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Pretty good documentary on the Burma Road construction during WW2 on Amazon or Netflix . Ain't nothing a bunch of skinny jean wearing Xgender creampuffs would pull off. Boomer, you never fail to crack me up.
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I am intrigued by this one: Endeavor RS VII 1744DS556 1-7x44 Rifle Scope, 30 mm, Illuminated, Dispatch Tactical Be interesting if you'd post on Korean hunting opportunities sometime, if that's even a thing now. I've seen it depicted in movies about the period of Japanese occupation and other, earlier times. I'm only in Korea for another 6 months. I haven't even worried about looking into the hunting or shooting in Korea. I came close on their deer when I was working out of Samsung's ship yard.
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I have their ED 10x42 binos. which are a match for more touted glass such as Leupold in the same price range. Have done the comparisons with Euro glass too and I would say that a lot of people wouldn't be able to pick the difference. They certainly are not ordinary or 2nd class.
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The Endeavor binos have always been very,very good as NZ says.
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I have their ED 10x42 binos. which are a match for more touted glass such as Leupold in the same price range. Have done the comparisons with Euro glass too and I would say that a lot of people wouldn't be able to pick the difference. They certainly are not ordinary or 2nd class. I have the Endeavor ED II binos and they're very good for the price. Have no experience with their scopes.
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I took a look at some of the listed models. Heavy, so maybe built well? Fairly longish objective bells and short mounting areas, sorta. Good looking reticles. Satin, rather than a dull matte finish may look great on polished blue rifles. Prices, high enough I wouldn't experiment with the unknown. Sent an email to Vanguard and will post up the results if any. Oh, Hoya glass, that should be good chit man.
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Got a response via email. Indeed products manufactured in Myanmar. Riflescopes, bins, and spotters have a lifetime warranty, though they did not address question on transferable nature of warranty..... CS located in Whitmore Lake Michigan. 800-875-3322
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