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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
One of my nephews (now a big city cop out West) insists that when he was a kid I promised him my whole collection when I go. I don't quite recall it, but he insists it's true. Not saying it's not, but I don't recall it. Seems unlikely, though.



You're lucky to have someone worthy on hand to accept and appreciate them.

I am too, I already passed on my favorites to my son, which he used too growing up. The rest go to my nephews up in New York State (if NY State still lets them at that time smirk )


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If any of you got a Stevens 425 in .35 Rem that you want to sell


I got a good home for it here in the mancave.
Willing to pay up to 14 ,15 hundred depending on condition.
It will get hunted for sure.
Pm is always ready to receive.

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
One of my nephews (now a big city cop out West) insists that when he was a kid I promised him my whole collection when I go. I don't quite recall it, but he insists it's true. Not saying it's not, but I don't recall it. Seems unlikely, though.



You're lucky to have someone worthy on hand to accept and appreciate them.

I am too, I already passed on my favorites to my son, which he used too growing up. The rest go to my nephews up in New York State (if NY State still lets them at that time smirk )

Yeah, he's the only nephew who really likes guns. He's got a nice little collection, himself.

PS I used to sneak him off to the range to teach him how to shoot when he was a kid (maybe 8 when we started that), despite his parents being anti-gun.

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Originally Posted by hanco
My boy is 31, he loves hunting, but doesn’t have great interest in nice or old rifles.

Yet



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Originally Posted by MadMooner
Anybody checked out the prices on some 1980’s era BMX bikes?

Kids bikes from 30-40 years ago are selling for some decent coin these days.


I'll take this one
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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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You equate ignorance and poverty w/ integrity, how Gandhiesque. Gandhi drank his own urine and wore a diaper and also knew little about capitalism.


No, I equate integrity with integrity, financial status unimportant depending on how ya got it.

I've lived among true poverty for a period of years of my life, what I'm in ain't it, not even close. How I got where I am now is assuming a bunch of debt with half the income (coolest part has been watching my credit rating climb through the roof over these past few years smile )

I am particular about how I accumulate property, it ain't worth it to me to price gouge, fer example.

IMHO you bragged on gouging, but have now submitted a bunch of qualifiers, OK.



I brag about gouging?....hmmmm every buyer was happy to acquire a product, the intrinsic value of which, he failed to recognize 6 months earlier, I wasn't selling rice balls to the starving, Mahatma. Those that have actually acquired disposable income recognize market value and pay the price for what they want. Did you not pay a certain sum for a musket w/ which you could dress up w/ your antique kettle to guard the Alamo and cause young ladies to swoon? You have perfected rationalizing being an educated white male living in a state that most had by passed in their teens, congrats. Some people, probably joo gougers, bought Microsoft stock in the early days and sold it at a huge profit to those that didn't see the value until later.

Not sucking at capitalism has its' place in American history. Just call me a robber baron LMFAO.


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Originally Posted by lvmiker


Some people, probably joo gougers,



,...who are verbose and with foul dispositions.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Some people, probably joo gougers,



,...who are verbose and with foul dispositions.


You brokedicks whine in chorus.

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Originally Posted by hatari
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Did some reading a while back after reading about Harley Davidsons future business plans - things are changing at a fast pace with the younger generation . Happened across an article/blog saying that things like the rock climbing walls in shopping malls were mostly gone - other stuff due to lack of interest etc. .
I know quite a few lads from 35 years old down to 20 years olds and basically none of them have any interest in nice rifles - firearms in general - one has an AK-47 the other M1A that his Dad gave him .
I'm in two leases and the number of youths has dropped off a lot in the last ten years - Dads say their kids just aren't interested in anything outdoors . The ones that do come live on their phone the whole time - 9-10 years old on a phone constantly - no interest in hunting or gun talk .

That leads me to believe that many will inherit firearms or dad/grandad will try to sell them off and all of us ''mature'' guys will be full up on guns . That will lead to a huge surplus of unwanted firearms .
You reckon ?



Yep. Same with '60s era muscle cars. In about 15 years, they will get cheap. Pre '64 Winchesters with nice wood will be in the used gun racks. Young dudes who have served in the military want black rifles first, then maybe one bolt gun and a side arm or two.


Why will '60s era cars be cheap in 15 years?

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Times change. Wait until another D-head Dim sits in the Oval Office....guns, any guns, will be worth gold.


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Times change. Wait until another D-head Dim sits in the Oval Office....guns, any guns, will be worth gold.



You got that right.


Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.

Rehabilitation is way overrated.

Orwell wasn't wrong.

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?????

Egad Sir, “Whites” and “joos” ? WTF? You’ve been hanging around Bristoe or what? 🙂

Anyhoo, it’s clear thou dost protest too much.

You sold cheap guns to the desperate for $2,000, I prob’ly wouldn’t, but then I ain’t about building castles on sand. You do know you’rr gonna be leaving it all behind right? 🙂

I can only wish reenacting attracted hot chicks, or ANY chicks, but somehow a bunch of geriatrics in strange musty clothes don’t seem to flip their switch 🤨

I figure reenacting at the Alamo is a rare privilege, dunno if you’d be interested tho, it doesn’t pay anything.

How come you’re reaching so hard to belittle me? I can only conclude I struck a nerve.


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On a thread concerning gun collections as an investment you chose to title me a gouger for exchanging a gun at a profit with a buyer who wanted it badly. You belittle yourself w/out my assistance. The integrity that you claim to value so highly should exclude being so judgmental....and fragile.



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I'm glads to see you twos are finally getting along smile


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You’re right, they never woulda bought ‘em at $600 🙄


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Market sucks, I've posted NIB rifles that aren't made anymore and they don't get a look.

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The folks buying during the panics don't "need" the guns/ammo, they "want" it. Bad. If civil war broke out of hand any I had out like Halloween candy. Food, etc also.

During a panic it's simple supply and demand. Any rational person knows the cycle and if you're too stupid to BTFD (buy the [bleep] dip) then you deserve to pay stupid prices during the peaks.

Nothing to do with integrity in the least, and this idea that poverty equates integrity is ridiculous.



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Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Did some reading a while back after reading about Harley Davidsons future business plans - things are changing at a fast pace with the younger generation . Happened across an article/blog saying that things like the rock climbing walls in shopping malls were mostly gone - other stuff due to lack of interest etc. .
I know quite a few lads from 35 years old down to 20 years olds and basically none of them have any interest in nice rifles - firearms in general - one has an AK-47 the other M1A that his Dad gave him .
I'm in two leases and the number of youths has dropped off a lot in the last ten years - Dads say their kids just aren't interested in anything outdoors . The ones that do come live on their phone the whole time - 9-10 years old on a phone constantly - no interest in hunting or gun talk .

That leads me to believe that many will inherit firearms or dad/grandad will try to sell them off and all of us ''mature'' guys will be full up on guns . That will lead to a huge surplus of unwanted firearms .
You reckon ?



Yep. Same with '60s era muscle cars. In about 15 years, they will get cheap. Pre '64 Winchesters with nice wood will be in the used gun racks. Young dudes who have served in the military want black rifles first, then maybe one bolt gun and a side arm or two.


Why will '60s era cars be cheap in 15 years?


Because buyers are and will be dying of old age.

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Nothing to do with integrity in the least, and this idea that poverty equates integrity is ridiculous.


‘K Dude, everybody loves the guy peddling $2,000 Norincos at the gun show in an election year wink

I suppose there are circumstances where poverty CAN equate to integrity. I saw that in Africa, where a small minority of devout Christians and Muslims would refuse participating in corruption. Over here integrity is easy, over there refusing the income from bribes and theft can actually starve your children.

If Jesus Himself showed up in your gun store, would you sell Him a $350 Norinco for $2,000? According to Him, as you do for the least of folks is the same as doing it to Jesus.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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1) It was the last thing she needed or wanted. She needed time out. Instead, she had to sell his guns.
2) She was not a big gun fan in the first place.
3) She had no idea what they were worth
4) She's a naturally suscpicious woman, and she had no idea if anyone was cheating her.




She sounds like a real peach.




Look, I'm comparing this to situations I know. Take my Dad. Dad died unexpectedly just before he turned 85. He had a will and he had nearly all his assets tagged with Mom's name on them as either a beneficiary or a co-signer. The day after his death, Mom sat me down and had me call a few phone numbers. After that, there were no big concerns about money.

My friend? He had a will. He had even gone so far as to specify how he wanted his funeral. However, as soon as he was in the ground, his widow had to start digging through the house. There was no master inventory. There was no good way to determine what was valuable and what was not. In the end, she had managed to fill one of the bedrooms with all of the stash with some pistols going over into another bedroom. All in all, it was a 3 month project to get everything catalogued and then another month or two before they were out to the LGS. I vaguely knew what he had-- to the point where I even volunteered one of my sons to babysit the house during the funeral. She got a neighbor instead.

There were things in that collection that only Bill Ruger and a handful of others would have understood. My friend knew Bill, and astonished him with some of his finds. You had to be around and know the inside scoop because there was no written provenance. I sat with the widow one night and explained about a half-dozen of the best finds to the best of my memory.

If this gun-as-an-investment thing could have worked, then the process of divestment should have started a good 5 years earlier while my friend still was able. He could have gotten top dollar for everything by calling around in his network of collectors. He could have probably kept a few treasures, and made written instructions on who to call. He could also have kept trading-- that was his real passion. However, he should have kept an eye out for steadily reducing his inventory. He should have also kept an inventory of what he had and done at least some estimate of what it was worth. Probably the worst loss of all was the fact that there was little or no written provenance on any of it. That's history that's lost.

As an example, there was this fellow he knew way back that asked him about becoming an engraver. My friend gave him some encouragement and later on received one of his earliest pieces. It was this gorgeous 38 special revolver-- stunning. I met the engraver once back in the early 80's. The guy's dead now, but his artistry made him a legend-- forget the name; it's been too long. Anyhow, there would be folks giving their eye teeth for an example of that guy's work. I pointed the piece out to the widow. She noted it on the inventory sheet. Lord only knows what it fetched, but I can guarantee it didn't get what it deserved. It's now out there floating around and no one knows who did it or what it is truly worth.


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