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308 MUSINGS #14241590 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	Decided to give the new Sierra Game Changers a go using 46.5gr Varget, BR-2 primers and WW brass seated to 28.10. Not bad and these should hold up at 308 speeds.. three shot groups: Pre-64 70 Featherwight... Browning Safari Grade, 22" pencil barrel... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

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Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241596 10/30/19
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5,751 Likes: 1 (513) F Folically_Challenged Campfire Tracker
Folically_Challenged Campfire Tracker F Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5,751 Likes: 1 (513)	I suppose you could live with that, were you forced to do so... FC "Every day is a holiday, and every meal is a banquet." - Mrs. FC

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241688 10/30/19
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN A ar15a292f Campfire Regular
ar15a292f Campfire Regular A Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN	Jorge using a Sierra bullet? What is going on? Is it just for target practice or are you planing to hunt with that bullet? The groups are excellent, I'm betting that it would be a great bullet to try on a hog hunt.

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241693 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	I currently have the FWT sighted with 130 TTSXs (they shoot almost exactly 1" below the Sierras) and the Browning with 165 Partitions, but the accuracy of the Sierras is amazing. Going to try them on Georgia hogs as soon as I can. Hopefully I can find a big boar to test it on his gristle plate.. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241694 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,928 Likes: 18 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,928 Likes: 18	How much powder compression is required for that load?

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Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241701 10/30/19
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN A ar15a292f Campfire Regular
ar15a292f Campfire Regular A Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN	I'm just kidding you. I remember you saying that the 308 was like the missionary position with the lights off. Knowing your opinion of Sierra bullets, it would be like adding a condom the scenario.

Re: 308 MUSINGS ar15a292f #14241799 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	Originally Posted by ar15a292f I'm just kidding you. I remember you saying that the 308 was like the missionary position with the lights off. Knowing your opinion of Sierra bullets, it would be like adding a condom the scenario. Spot on it is an exceedingly boring cartridge and I too was a victim of Sierra tinfoil years ago, but I know they have been very accurate bullets. I hope these Game Chagers are indeed a game changer for them. But I've been known to change....once in a blue moon. As to compression, I have no idea, math. All I can tell you is the bolt, in both rifles can be lifted with no effort and many folks here use that load. In fact this is where I got it. Max book I believe is 46gr of Varget, so I figured .5 was no big deal A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241862 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,928 Likes: 18 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,928 Likes: 18	Pressure wasn't my concern, I like to load straight from the powder measure and when I throw 46 grains I have to take steps to get it settled down into the case. I don't like to crunch powder.

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241906 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	Oh. Well there is some slight crunching. Case gets pretty full. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241973 10/30/19
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN A ar15a292f Campfire Regular
ar15a292f Campfire Regular A Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN	Boring is okay, it gets the job done with no drama. The 2 rifles you mentioned are classics, very elegant. My main hunting cartridge is equally boring, a 30-06, but it works.

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Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14241981 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	I have two Safari Grades in 06. Both beautiful guns and they shoot! One thing you will NOT see me change is having a plastic stocked rifle (other than an AR)... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242030 10/30/19
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ar15a292f Campfire Regular A Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN	Jorge, I agree, there is nothing like a beautiful wood stock. My Beretta Mato originally came with a fiberglass stock but I replaced with with a OEM XXX Claro walnut stock when Beretta had them on clearance. I don't have the pictures currently and haven't posted pictures here, but if you google my screen name, ar15a292f + beretta mato + opticstalk you can see pictures that I posted on that forum. If you get a chance check them out and let me know what you think. Sorry about hi-jacking your thread.

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242179 10/30/19
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hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 152,626 Likes: 52 Texas	What is the difference between a Game Changer and a GameKing beside the tip? The GameKings are very accurate in 308’s and 30-06’s for me. They have no problem with deer and pigs.

Re: 308 MUSINGS ar15a292f #14242204 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	Originally Posted by ar15a292f Jorge, I agree, there is nothing like a beautiful wood stock. My Beretta Mato originally came with a fiberglass stock but I replaced with with a OEM XXX Claro walnut stock when Beretta had them on clearance. I don't have the pictures currently and haven't posted pictures here, but if you google my screen name, ar15a292f + beretta mato + opticstalk you can see pictures that I posted on that forum. If you get a chance check them out and let me know what you think. Sorry about hi-jacking your thread. I'll take a look for sure! From Sierra: In general, Sierra engineers took the MatchKing bullet and made it with a thicker jacket, a harder 3 percent antimony lead core and put a plastic tip on it, according to Jeff Marshall, Sierra’s engineering manage. "The result is a super-accurate and tough game bullet,” he said. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242234 10/30/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	This it? [Linked Image] A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242259 10/30/19
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ar15a292f Campfire Regular A Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,040 Valparaiso, IN	Yes it is Jorge. The best $140 I ever spent on a rifle stock. There are several pictures of the stock in that thread. Thanks for pulling it up. Last edited by ar15a292f; 10/30/19.

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242318 10/30/19
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FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska	Interesting & good shooting...you know my disdain for that label as well, its never been about accuracy as much as jacket construction however that was moons ago. Last edited by FlyboyFlem; 10/30/19. You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242347 10/30/19
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hatari Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 23,375 Likes: 2 Atlanta	Nice groups! "The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017 "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14242361 10/30/19
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aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,183 Likes: 10 S.W. Wis.	308.......the B cup of the cartridge world......

Re: 308 MUSINGS jorgeI #14244050 10/31/19
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	So a legit question for the floor; I used WW brass, would Nosler or Lapua brass made a difference? A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

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