Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Why the big hardon for Vortex ?

When it comes to optics that dial formidilosis is someone who hasn't steered me wrong yet! In fact I often look to those with a lot of experience in certain areas for reliable information. I guess some people are actually experts about everything on the planet so have no need to look to anyone for reliable information about anything.

Form has said the Vortex won' t hold up to dialing which I kinda was already leaning toward based on my own personal experience based on small samples.

Last year I worked over a rifle for a younger brother who wanted to extend his hunting ranges to 600 ish yds. For his rifle he went with a Vortex 4-16X42 Because apparently they make some people hard!!! I told him based on my limited experience of what I have seen with 2 Vortex scopes and what Form has said on this forum I expected that his accuracy would be stellar for a season of dialing but eventually the scope would lose precise adjustments. Well fhucq oh dear if the piece of [bleep] didn't start acting up last fall. Like everyone who can't seem to get a first fhuqking clue he immediately thought we had something funky with our handloads or whatever. I again explained that his precision scope while it still was capable of aiming was past its useful precise life expectancy. I proved it to him when I unmounted the piece of [bleep] and put my fixed 10SWFA on! Rifle shoots perfect once again and I let him keep the SWFA!

Vortex scopes work but they don't make me hard! The average hunter doesn't shoot well enouph to see the difference or they blame a "loose adjusting" scope on everything else under the sun! If people didn't always know everything they would probably learn that most useful information that one obtains you can learn from someone who's done a lot more of it than you. People aren't smart because they tought themselves everything under the sun! People are smart because they are capable of learning from others and can match it to there own personal experience! Form has "NEVER"steered me wrong concerning optics!!! A good many others on this forum have solid reliable info as well Mule Deer being one of many.

When people continually post things completely contrary to those who actually have reliable answers I always have to chuckle and wonder if there brilliance is something so powerful that it will continually get in there way of being able of learn many useful things


Trystan

The New Razor 65 and 80 spotters are assembled in the USA

Optics are funny these days. Claim a real high msrp, then have your dealers sell them at 50% off msrp. The markup on these Chinese goods must be unreal.

Re-assembled. They ship it here all assembled, then take it apart and re-align everything.

ILya

If you read and believe everything on this forum you wouldn’t buy any scope. All y’all do is bitch and argue over stupid [bleep] LOL

Carry on....

^^^^^ This.

LOL Guys.

I’ll say this...I hear complaining about 2 brands no matter where I go. One is made in the US...one distributes them from Wi. Take a guess at which 2

Chinese mfg's often play very loose on material specs/QC. Chinese steel is particularly bad.
I've been working in industry since 2000 and in my expiereance the track record on chinese parts is almost universally poor.
The sad thing is when buying replacement parts for American made machinery nowadays the stuff is often Chinese. For example last year I ordered some lift cylinders and misc parts for a Cat D11 and they were made in China.

Nobody ever goes to china for quality...remember that

So at the risk of starting another fire fight, what scope(s) DO hold up to dialing?

TY

when vortex first got popular I ended up buying 4 of them. as far as using them ,they worked fine. all were very clear if you were at 20x or below. over 20x clarity seemed to fizzle . I was happy until a 4x16 viper power ring got tight,to tight to turn. vortex would not fix it.they offered a fix by giving me the names of 2 companies that made power ring levers. we la few weeks later my other 4x16 viper did the same thing. I called again and talked to another tech,they offered nothing. I sold all 4 vipers .

This.....

I bought 2 Vortex scopes, 2.5x10 PST, 3,000+ rounds sent in for repair, 4x16 PST got a couple podiums at 1000 yard shoots still reliable but took it off recently. The reason is I did not trust it to deliver adjustments at that distance, up until now I shot for group leaving the score on the table.
I replaced it with a 16X SWFA, the other 5 SWFA's I have dial precisely.
For me a rifle scope is an aiming device, 'glass' needs to be good, no requirement for anything high end as long as I can see the target clearly.

Makes me wonder with all the talk on Euro or Japanese high end glass, how do they compare when you look through them with your Walmart glasses, that is the lens not many talk about.

RE: you look through them with your Walmart glasses

+1 excellent point that I for one hadn't really considered.

I must be doing something wrong. I've handled numerous Vortex optics and have yet to get a" hardon" in fact many have left me feeling completely unsatisfied

Opinions on this scope? SWFA SS 2.5-10x32 Ultralight Rifle Scope

I heard that Vortex uses Fram filters in all of their vehicles.

Laughin' here.

But, but, but QC's supposed to not allow that to happen...............some on hear really seem to believe that, too.

Go try to find a set of brake rotors that's not made in China; to your comment above, material is wrong & HT is bad so when they get hot a few time, they warp & then of course, you feel it in the pedal.

MM