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Pelosi bows to the radical Left in her Party. She's playing with fire and she knows it. She's hoping by calling this a vote on a "formal impeachment inquiry" the masses will be fooled into thinking that is the same as impeachment proceedings. This is no coincidence that that this vote happens this week after Pelosi said 3 weeks ago she didn't need or want asuch a vote. She does't want her people on record to defend an atttempt to oust Trump. Pelosi knows that Trump will use it against Dems, and go to many of those 40 formerly GOP Districts teh Dems barely won in 2018 and whip up excitment in the 50,000+ voters that come out to see Trump speak at rallies. The Dems are pulling this vote to take the news cycle off of Trumps victories vs. teh ISIS leadership. They lost badly on that. This is their knee jerk response to getthe focus back on Trump and impeachment. Pelosi does NOT want a vote on impeachment before the election. House approves Trump impeachment resolution, paving way for public hearings David Knowles 19 minutes ago Pelosi speaks on the House floor in support of impeachment resolution
The U.S. House of Representatives passed a resolution Thursday that formalizes the next steps in the impeachment inquiry of President Trump. The final vote was 232-196, with former Republican and current independent Rep. Justin Amash voting yes and two Democrats voting no.
The measure, which came after weeks of Republican criticism of Democrats for conducting their interviews behind closed doors, signals the beginning of public hearings in which staff counsel for both parties will be given equal time to question witnesses.
“Sadly, this is not any cause for any glee or comfort. This is something that is very solemn, that is something prayerful and that we had to gather so much information to take us to this next step,” said Speaker Nancy Pelosi on the House floor prior to the vote, adding, “Every member should support allowing the American people to hear the facts themselves, that’s really what this vote is about.”
The two Democrats to vote no were Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey and Rep. Collin Peterson of Minnesota.
Since late September, House Democrats have been building their case that Trump abused his powers as president by asking the president of Ukraine to announce an investigation of one of his political rivals, former Vice President Joe Biden, and to cooperate with Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani to validate a right-wing conspiracy theory about the 2016 election. A July 25 phone call between Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky alarmed multiple U.S. government officials and sparked a whistleblower complaint. In closed-door interviews conducted by the House Intelligence Committee, witnesses have testified that nearly $400 million in military aid was withheld by the Trump administration to compel the government in Kiev to comply.
The aid was eventually released.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., will continue to lead the impeachment inquiry on behalf of the Democrats, though the president’s lawyers will have the opportunity to defend Trump in the Judiciary Committee, chaired by Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., which will vote on the articles of impeachment and send them to the floor of the House.
The resolution clears the way for Republicans to call witnesses to appear before the Intelligence Committee, though they must first submit written justification for those they wish to question. Democrats, who have presided over the committee since retaking control of the House in the 2018 midterm elections, can deny Republican requests.
The White House has blocked testimony by several witnesses called by House Democrats, and the resolution provides Nadler with a mechanism to enforce future compliance.
“Should the President unlawfully refuse to make witnesses available for testimony to, or to produce documents requested by, the investigative committees ... the chair [of the Judiciary Committee] shall have the discretion to impose appropriate remedies, including by denying specific requests by the President or his counsel under these procedures to call or question witnesses,” reads the rules document obtained by Yahoo News.
Should the House vote to impeach Trump, the U.S. Senate will conduct a formal trial that could lead to his removal from office. In that setting, lawyers representing the president will have greater leeway to call witnesses and cross-examine those who helped House Democrats make their case against Trump.
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The whole works are pathetic. Both sides. It’s depressing. Ed k
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When it crashes the economy Trump will get the blame
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amash voted yes. so much for principles. What an asshat.
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When it crashes the economy Trump will get the blame There is actually no reason any impeachment proceedings would crash the economy, which is already slowing. According to FOX News, "Bad economic data reignites recession jitters" see: https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets...conomic-data-reignites-recession-jittersGenerally, a recession (economic downturn) is commonly identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. GDP has slowed in the past two quarters as discussed in this BBC article ( https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50234626 ). There will be a recession (cycles typical run every 7-8 years; we are now in the 11th year - 2009-2019), we are overdue.
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Dog and pony show that will amount to nothing...except wasting taxpayer dollars ( which is bad..) and getting Trump re-elected.( which is good..)
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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The whole works are pathetic. Both sides. It’s depressing. Ed k +1, just how much of our tax money have they spent on this BS?
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When it crashes the economy Trump will get the blame There is actually no reason any impeachment proceedings would crash the economy, which is already slowing. According to FOX News, "Bad economic data reignites recession jitters" see: https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets...conomic-data-reignites-recession-jittersGenerally, a recession (economic downturn) is commonly identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. GDP has slowed in the past two quarters as discussed in this BBC article ( https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50234626 ). There will be a recession (cycles typical run every 7-8 years; we are now in the 11th year - 2009-2019), we are overdue. You are a MORON! Front page of today's Wall Street Journal is all about how the Fed is happy with the current level of moderate economic expansion. Read it. "The current stance of (interest rate) policy is likely to remain appropriate" as long as the economy continues to expand moderately and the labor market stays strong, said Fed Chairman Jerome Powell. If you look at the rate the economy took off after the Trump election, you might understand how the Fed raised the Fed-Funds rate to prevent the economy from over heating. After slowing the meteoric rise of the markets to a sustainable level, the Feds decided to back off the brakes starting in this past July.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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So Rs should roll over and let the dimocommies get back to business opening borders, pushing gun control, bombing Assad, expanding the caliphate with Syria,starting nuclear war with Putin (to help mother nature), reduce sanctions on Iran to help nuclear proliferation, send aid to China in the form of trade imbalance ( as long as the kickbacks to govt officials continue), return NK to a nuclear threat status, allow the UN to flood us with Afreakin moslems, get us back on the road Venezuela followed, ....
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So how does this timing work? The way I understand it, the house would have to impeach and the senate hold the hearing all BEFORE election time, so about a year. All the while some of the sitting senators are on the campaign trail. I think if it spans an election that's a reset?
This can't possibly work out if that timing is true. It simply won't be time in the calendar to do it all.
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When it crashes the economy Trump will get the blame There is actually no reason any impeachment proceedings would crash the economy, which is already slowing. According to FOX News, "Bad economic data reignites recession jitters" see: https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets...conomic-data-reignites-recession-jittersGenerally, a recession (economic downturn) is commonly identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. GDP has slowed in the past two quarters as discussed in this BBC article ( https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50234626 ). There will be a recession (cycles typical run every 7-8 years; we are now in the 11th year - 2009-2019), we are overdue. Agree 100% with Hatari's post above. The "11years" quoted above is a misnomer as 8 of those years of "recovery" actually weren't recovery at all but more of a recession which hit a bottom and basically stayed there. With 0% interest and monetary printing presses running 24/7/365 to ensure that the Magic ones economy didn't drill down below the basement floor and continue dropping. The true economic upturn is in it's 3rd year[maybe 4th at best].
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Every time there is good economic news during a Republican administration the state run fake media run stories of pending economic disaster.
When the Demonrats are in power, in spite of slow economic conditions,the state run fake news blows smoke up the ass of the public with lies about how good it is.
If you're stupid enough to believe the fake news,then you're dumber than a box of rocks.
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So how does this timing work? The way I understand it, the house would have to impeach and the senate hold the hearing all BEFORE election time, so about a year. All the while some of the sitting senators are on the campaign trail. I think if it spans an election that's a reset?
This can't possibly work out if that timing is true. It simply won't be time in the calendar to do it all.
You’re running on the false assumption that they mean to actually impeach & remove. I don’t think that’s the case; they want this lie to be repeated over and over and over and over throughout the election process so it becomes true in the minds of the electorate to such an extent that even one of their horrible candidates can beat The Donald.
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So how does this timing work? The way I understand it, the house would have to impeach and the senate hold the hearing all BEFORE election time, so about a year. All the while some of the sitting senators are on the campaign trail. I think if it spans an election that's a reset?
This can't possibly work out if that timing is true. It simply won't be time in the calendar to do it all.
You’re running on the false assumption that they mean to actually impeach & remove. I don’t think that’s the case; they want this lie to be repeated over and over and over and over throughout the election process so it becomes true in the minds of the electorate to such an extent that even one of their horrible candidates can beat The Donald. That seems totally preposterous to me. How did you arrive at the assumption?
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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IMHO it's just a smear campaign, one that will last til the election. The Russian collusion deal lasted way longer than it should have and was nothing. This also a nothing, but a higher level. They can run with it longer.
That the plan all along.
The media now playing it serious, not screaming and yelling like before. Just a change of tactic..............same chit show.
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"paving way for public hearings"
I read a different article that said the hearings will continue in closed door sessions; I don't think the Demons will allow the public to see what they are doing in not letting the GOP call witnesses w/o their approval or that they do not allow the GOP committee members to fully question witnesses however they choose.
If they were to do that in open public hearings, that would completely destroy any remaining credibility that they have left, which is nearly zero.
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Whistleblower fiasco is all falling apart and will come back and bite PENCIL NECK Schiff right in his ass. Schiff collaborated with the whistleblower and set it all up .... An intel guy by the name of Morrison blew up Schiff's best witness through his testimony. The IG and Durham reports are forthcoming.
Just wait BOYS!!!...........Gonna be fun!
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Dog and pony show that will amount to nothing...except wasting taxpayer dollars ( which is bad..) and getting Trump re-elected.( which is good..) It's like redundant advertising. Boring.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Dog and pony show that will amount to nothing...except wasting taxpayer dollars ( which is bad..) and getting Trump re-elected.( which is good..) I guess they think all this looks good inside the Beltway. It stinks out here in fly over country, the same crowd who elected Trump the first time. We'll do it again, even bigger this time. As more secret stuff is revealed, the more this corruption is exposed. DF
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